What people are saying about "Elo"
Elo
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-bg-
about 11 years ago
I don't like it when HoN players judge teammates by reading their win/lost stat + KDA
Some people with low KDA actually perform quite well sometimes.
Miron
about 11 years ago
Why stop there valve implement a persistant K/D ratio for TF2.
FormerWoWplayer
about 11 years ago
Oh boy, its Gearscore all over again.
daivaras
about 11 years ago
yes
Bob
about 11 years ago
Wont be public
Solarn
about 11 years ago
@Good news Jo: I hoped that Valve would continue with their record of understanding what their playerbase needs, but I'm pleasantly surprised anyway.
darkhunter
about 11 years ago
It's funny because somebody actually said that yesterday...
Good news Jo
about 11 years ago
"- Added a privacy setting in the UI so that players can specify whether they want to allow external 3rd party websites to be able to access their match history (defaulted to private)."

:)!
 
about 11 years ago
[url=#user_comment_244476]@Ajonos[/url]: You don't need to worry about your low ELO and while you play with high ELO players because matchmaking will not allow that to happen. On the other hand ELO cannot do any harm to any MOBA community. They will call you noob either for no reason or for low ELO, but they will do it anyway.
dealwithit
about 11 years ago
LOL just kidding, i love dota 2
LOLI
about 11 years ago
@Sreggin Wej: You are right.

Fucking casuals
Mouse
about 11 years ago
[url=#user_comment_244440]@VioletZer0[/url]: You're just a 2* scrub fggt gbttk before my Imp finds you. :3
Ajonos
about 11 years ago
[url=#user_comment_244470]@Defiant[/url]: Really? This is a reason to play LoL over Dota2? LoL, the game where your elo ranking is already displayed in-game? Logic: learn it.
Defiant
about 11 years ago
Like I need another reason to not play Dota2. I'll stick with LoL thank you very much.
O-(-','Q)
about 11 years ago
[url=#user_comment_244432]@Davtwan[/url] : So... the entire playerbase, then?
VioletZer0
about 11 years ago
@Never played MOBA: That is indeed how it is on the American servers. It's quite dreadful to see.
Davtwan
about 11 years ago
@Everyone calm down.: One problem, douche players will probably make fun of everyone who hides their rank. "Can't face the truth, scrub? I bet you're some Bronze rank faggot."
Everyone calm down.
about 11 years ago
Once again:
"Added a privacy setting in the UI so that players can specify whether they want to allow external 3rd party websites to be able to access their match history (defaulted to private)."
Combat Mini-Sentry Gun
about 11 years ago
Accidentally posted the comment below while it was incomplete. Anyway, what I was going to say was:

With this, I'll never give Dota 2 a chance. I can alterady see the same ellitism from TF2 growing in there.


Also, I laughed at the Engineer icon replacing the Apple icon.
Combat Mini-Sentry Gun
about 11 years ago
With this, I'll never give
Sreggin Wej
about 11 years ago
Look at all the shitty players who couldnt avoid feeding to save their live getting all mad because their shittiness will be exposed to the world.

Get better, nerds.
Davtwan
about 11 years ago
*Was about to try DOTA 2 since a friend gave me a free key.*

*Sees this.*

Fuuuuuuuuck that. *Leaves.*
O-(-'.'Q)
about 11 years ago
Internet games are serious buisness.

Where you stand on the issue determines whether the above line sounds sarcastic or not.
dealwithit
about 11 years ago
this is why league sucks.
SUCK IT
about 11 years ago
SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKKK IIIIIIIIIIIIIT ELITISTS
Fredrick Lemmon
about 11 years ago
In the test patch notes today -

- Added a privacy setting in the UI so that players can specify whether they want to allow external 3rd party websites to be able to access their match history (defaulted to private).
Merlynn
about 11 years ago
See,the thing I hate about "game rankings" is that they don't really tell you how good a player is. Take me for example.

I have personally changed the tide of battle on more than one occasion. But I change the battle in ways that just aren't counted on the scoring system,so I have a low score.
Merlynn
about 11 years ago
So I end up being this low score "perma-noob" that no one takes seriously. Then they find out I'm a pitbull with a shotgun full of hate who will fucking murder them if they even think about touching my intell. That simply giving me the ability to heal can make me an unstoppable monster.
Merlynn
about 11 years ago
And just cause I don't have a sniper rifle doesn't mean I can't pick your snipy ass off at long range better than you can,scope boy. But this isn't counted. It's just kills and heal points and it doesn't add up to the tactical genius that I employ over and over. So yeah,scores don't mean shit.
mindfaQ
about 11 years ago
Ofc queuing with friend will mean that the gaps can become bigger, esp. if your friends are far off from your own rating.
mindfaQ
about 11 years ago
If MM works, the other players won't be that far away from you anyway. Not really sure why someone would use it to judge players at the start of the game. I'd much rather check out the stats at the end of game just out of curiosity and ofc to track my progression.
i
about 11 years ago
DotA 2 sucks. That is all.
Never played MOBA
about 11 years ago
[url=#user_comment_244315]@VioletZer0[/url]: I don't know much about the European or American parts of the WoT community, but in the Russian-speaking part the overwhelming majority of players will consider you an absolute noob if your win rate is below 50%. So yeah, I think Jo is right about this one.
Cadmas
about 11 years ago
I love when shit players blame their teams for him having low elo. It's typically bronze players that look down on other bronze players.
Turkashi
about 11 years ago
Many games got such, as far as I know, WoW, LoL, SC2, D3, SWTOR got this "your information isn't secured" websites.
Can't blame Dota2.

But if the mentality of dota is realy like "gtfo you bronze noob!" Then I'm happy playing LoL
Because i'm a noob :3
dealwithit
about 11 years ago
this is the reason why dota 2 sucks
VioletZer0
about 11 years ago
[url=#user_comment_244301]@Enai[/url]: Only people who hide things in their house don't want government security cameras in their homes.
nope
about 11 years ago
Jo mad cuz hes bad at doto..
A random Nerfnow reader
about 11 years ago
By automatically I mean queueing up as X Hero beforehand.
HeliaXDemoN
about 11 years ago
DBR didn't launch yet. DIE
A random Nerfnow reader
about 11 years ago
Why don't these DotA style games have the option of choosing your hero automatically for non-ranked games? At least then you'd have the benefit of knowing you played your best with a hero of your choosing rather than having pointless arguments over roles.
Enai
about 11 years ago
Only bad people don't want their stats to be public.

Now all that is needed is for someone to write an overlay that displays dotabuff stats during hero select. That 0.6 KD guy is not going to carry but can support. The 1.1 wards guy is not going to support properly but may be a decent carry. Etc.
i
about 11 years ago
Dota 2 becoming worse community like HON, game became end before the horn blow because some dota-elitist view DBR
Sweet Reaper
about 11 years ago
:D nice i like this

dota 2 rulz!!!
Azariel
about 11 years ago
*report Valve for trolling*
VioletZer0
about 11 years ago
If you want to see the effects first hand, look at World of Tanks where people's records are public to everyone.

There's a mod out there that displays people's win rates next to their name so they can make fun of them for it.
jso
about 11 years ago
yet another reason to never ever play this garbage
 
about 11 years ago
[url=#user_comment_244235]@Xifihas[/url]: actually MOBAs are simplified versions of more complex games. AOS was made for those who cannot into SC just as DotA was for those who cannot into WC3.
Fredrick Lemmon
about 11 years ago
This information was all available publicly already, this is just figuring out some rating off of it and posting it. Won't change anything, don't know why people are freaking out.

Keep posting the DotA comics. Don't give in to the lowest common denominator people crying.
Steephill
about 11 years ago
I personally dont see a problem with it. It's not like it shows everyone before the game, and besides who is going to look at everyone's dotabuff profile before a game starts??
Mouse
about 11 years ago
engie tan needs to put engie tan in her place.
Xifihas
about 11 years ago
How are these games popular? They're insanely complex and there's no way to learn how to play because if you make a single mistake you get banned from every game.
Serathis
about 11 years ago
One of the many reasons I hate MOBA games. Jo, please less DOTA/LOL, moar everything else!
Naumhagatos
about 11 years ago
...And DOTA2 gets more and more like LOL...

Let the rage begin!
Hazama
about 11 years ago
[url=#user_comment_244220]@Wiatrak[/url]: You can already feel ladder in starcraft 2 becoming more welcoming! Elitist MMO players numbers are falling! It's a MIRACLE!
Wiatrak
about 11 years ago
Personally i prefer to have all the douches from the internet in one place. Thank you MOBA genre!
Nintyuk
about 11 years ago
You can take the daemon out of hell but you can't take the hell out of the daemon.
Truth
about 11 years ago
[url=#user_comment_244192]@Bob[/url]: It would last for one week, then DoTA would die; nobody would be able to play any more. And the world would be a better place! Huzzah! Oh wait, no it wouldn't - all the jerks that WOULD be playing DoTA would now be trying to shit up other games DoTA-style. WELP!
ViolenceJack
about 11 years ago
[url=#user_comment_244204]@RandomNutGenerator[/url] - Bottom line? At the end of the day i just want to wind up a little stress and relax, not listen to kids swearing and crying that they lost a game that means nothing in the long run, because i was too slow or sloppy... sorry for the long rant lol :D
blargh
about 11 years ago
Ain't nobody got time to look up everyone on dotabuff at the start of the game.
ViolenceJack
about 11 years ago
[url=#user_comment_244204]@RandomNutGenerator[/url] - nowadays is hard to keep up with the kids... my mind is too burned out from work and RL to be able to focus entirely on PVP, and in team games where winning/ranking is everything and if you don't win you don't have fun mentality...
ViolenceJack
about 11 years ago
[url=#user_comment_244204]@RandomNutGenerator[/url] - don't have that many good online gaming (and don't tell me to play crap like CODs or D3, lol) I do miss playing War3 on Bnet though... but i lost my edge playing highly competitive games... im nearly 40 now and age doesn't help :(
ViolenceJack
about 11 years ago
[url=#user_comment_244204]@RandomNutGenerator[/url] - Tbh the mainstream games i played online were WoW (worst playerbase of them all) and LoL that is almost compared to WoW in that regard. I played action quake and CS back in the days, also Atlantica Online and other obscure mmos. The only genres i play most (RPGs, FPS and RTS)
RandomNutGenerator
about 11 years ago
[url=#user_comment_244202]@ViolenceJack[/url] Or you could be playing non-crowded MP games, where most of the idiots are filtered ? Such things exist you know. It's a good thing to focus on SP games (there's boatload of good SP games), but don't forget good MP games still exist, you just need to not pick the top10 titles.
wtf
about 11 years ago
nah, nothing is going to change... it's just a dotabuff rank...
ViolenceJack
about 11 years ago
And it feels like the 90s again :D (there were little pvp games at the time, mostly multiplayer were coops, i miss those days).
ViolenceJack
about 11 years ago
And this is why i rage quited ALL online gaming in January 2009... Nowadays i only play single player games... And never regretted it... And its great... I can stop/pause at any time i want, don't need timed plays (I.E. raids in WoW), do whatever i want and still have lots of fun.
Ninj77
about 11 years ago
[url=#user_comment_244190]@RoderickBR[/url]: You got that right, buddy. Too much drama in online gaming, now we have to endure this!!??? Btw, if both Engie-tans have the same name, how can we know who is who in the ranking system??? Any ideas?
Bob
about 11 years ago
Too Many Douchebags in your online games?

Introducing the Jerkrating.

At the end of every online match, each player rates the others on how much they annoyed them. If this rating gets too high, some matches will refuse to let them enter.
about 11 years ago
Good thing I don't play any of that dota/lol/rofl stuff.
argon
about 11 years ago
@Nando Rock: to be fair, 10% of 20000 is 2000, a not insignificant number. and if you are swinging at 5.5 seconds instead of 3.5 seconds you are doing about half as much damage to begin with

20000damage/3.5seconds=5700 dps
18000damage/5.5seconds=3270 dps

As you can see, quite the difference
Iceholder
about 11 years ago
Oh, wait, that's most teams anyways. nvm.
Iceholder
about 11 years ago
Aaaaand the DotA 2 community will now be shittier. Not by much, but definitely shittier. I guess I can see this being useful if you're putting together a team for competitions, but then again, you'd be making a PUG if you don't know any of them. Go go team blame each other all the time.
GG
about 11 years ago
Having a ELO player in a normal game is another thing, though. Ignoring claims and trying to order around the entire team just because they won some games in ranked (what actually doesn't make them better, you could have a 1,5k matches player who simply dislikes ranked.)
fuck ponies
about 11 years ago
So many DotA comics, more LoL comics or I will never read again!!!11!1
GG
about 11 years ago
Adding Elohell in DOTA? Now things will be getting real interesting in that game.

Thankfully you rarely see people bragging about their ELO in LOL, since the matchmaking already matches players with same ELO and skill, but it doesn't stop them from considering themselves pros surrounded by noobs.
 
about 11 years ago
[url=#user_comment_244167]@Meh[/url]: you are able switch between servers in DotA 2 aren't you? They will probably choose closest server so you may avoid them by playing on other.
Meh
about 11 years ago
Rankings? rly? Who cares when there are ru in every game. They are a cancer of dota, ruining every game to death.
BiggerTruth
about 11 years ago
Wow couldn't MOBAs be less ridiculous?
Every freaking player seems to be a elitist drama queen, lashing at everyone for anything that doesn't go the way they want.
Those ridiculous "e-sports" are just dumbed down RTS to inbreed retards.
If gaming continue going that way we are screwed.
Nando Rock
about 11 years ago
Something similar happens in some other MMORPGs where players judge you by the equipment you have, like, your weapon inflicts -10% damage and is 2 seconds slower, then you will be kicked out of the party.
Truth
about 11 years ago
the whole reason why bullying and elitism frickin' /exist/ in the DoTA franchise. And indeed, it's a big contributor to it existing in ANY GAME THAT DOES THIS. For example, look no further than the cluster---- that is Mass Effect 3's multiplayer.
Truth
about 11 years ago
[url=#user_comment_244125]@AidanNaut[/url]: >implying that winrate is accurate. It ain't. Last I checked, DoTA was a team gamel. Play well, but get teamed with a bunch of chumps? No win for you. Play poorly but get teamed with gods? Win anyway! The fact that individual rankings exist for a team game is
Thatguy
about 11 years ago
legitimize the tendencies for whining and accusing. A player should not be judged by his previous performance, only by his current one (if that). I'd certainly be curious to check out my OWN rank, but making it open to everyone is only going to send in a downward spirral.
Thatguy
about 11 years ago
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
Seriously, I want the votes reopened right now, it's completely ridiculous to take them into account when part of the community (i.e, me) didn't know about this.
Private ratings is one thing, but judging your allies by checking out their rating is going to
Nando Rock
about 11 years ago
I suffer bullying when Dota game, even playing with other beginners
Games
about 11 years ago
Sounds a bit too much like the original DotA community...
AidanNaut
about 11 years ago
People still measure edick size in dota2 by winrate, dotabuff rating will just be slightly more accurate.
MrK
about 11 years ago
[url=#user_comment_244098]@Cattz[/url] > Or you could simply get their SteamID number. You know that number on your steam profile public to everyone
Cattz
about 11 years ago
Meh, still a hassle, still buggy and requires you to actively seek out your rating by giving them lots of access to your stats/account, and still presents the whole finding the player.

Good luck with with Japanese names, or ascii like:

╭∩╮(◣_◢)╭∩╮

(╯︵╰,)

Seriously..
-_-
about 11 years ago
pvp, pvp never changes.
Sanguifer
about 11 years ago
LoL had Lolking for ages and You rarely see people doing that. Contesting lanes on the basis of elo, that is. I wouldn't worry.
FUCK YOU
about 11 years ago
FUCK YOU ALLL
Not Red Spy Chan
about 11 years ago
I would figure Red Engie would be superior at Dota2.
Nya-chan
about 11 years ago
ELO~
Enlong
about 11 years ago
Oh man, I love Electric Light Orchestra.

Well, I love the one song of theirs I've heard, anyway. (Twilight)
InfiniteLunacy
about 11 years ago
All DotA-style games have shitty communities...
Except maybe Awesomenauts?
I dunno, people are usually quiet during Awesomenauts games...
Sooooooo...
about 11 years ago
Is DOTA2 community gonna be as shitty as the LoL one now that it's got some virtual numbers to measure your e-peen ?
Terra
about 11 years ago
Yep. It's certainly returning to it's more negative roots.