What people are saying about "Serious Business"
Serious Business
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DSSCRA
over 9 years ago
>And after Metroid M, she can't really show any emotion (other than being pissed) otherwise Nintendo is "destroying her character".

Wow that sure is a real nice man made of straw you put up there.
Sartharina
over 9 years ago
I'm actually one who preferred the early silent arcs as well. I do remember one silent arc you did recently that you complained about killing reader interest... honestly, the problem with that was the arc was bad. Honestly - I'd love to see a silent DotA arc.
Vanreis
over 9 years ago
Some people say that "strong, silent protagonist" type character is the worst.
Imho, sometimes it's better since it doesn't get in the way of gameplay. I heard Other M had great gameplay but many people hated it because they didn't like protagonist's character. That doesn't happen with quiet heroes
over 9 years ago
I thought that was a horde of kirbies floating in space
over 9 years ago
Life of Samus?
http://imgur.com/XNloQQX
I think she might be a socially inept introvert, but that doesn't mean she is and that she's not happy.
over 9 years ago
[url=#user_comment_356005]@Greener[/url]: Man, i'm trying to. I know that you disliked the path that this comic has taken over the years, it does make sense, but i think ya could've been a bit more polite and objective, without resorting to offend so directly both the author and some of the readers.
over 9 years ago
Also, i think this comic has been, since the beggining, both an experiment and some sort of 'diary', with Jo making comics about his opinions and point of views... it hasn't changed all that much, except for the fact that arcs now tend to appear less than before.
over 9 years ago
[url=#user_comment_356005]@Greener[/url]: Man, i'm trying to. I get that you disliked the path the comic has taken over the years, it makes sense, but, to be honest, you could've been a bit more objective or polite about it... Ya could've stated your opinion without calling him and some of the viewers all that stuff you said.
over 9 years ago
@Kilgore Trout: To think about it, isn't that when Jo decided to go 5 days a week he turn this into a full job? Maybe the income is good enough for Brazil's standard? I don't know much about Economy in Brazil. Hey Jo, need confirmation here mate.
over 9 years ago
[url=#user_comment_355995]@Greener[/url]: Also, there are some artists who make enough money just from their comics that they don't need a 9 to 5 job. Everybody's dream is to be able to support themselves doing a job they love. If Jo wants to do that, I don't see how you can blame him.
over 9 years ago
[url=#user_comment_355995]@Greener[/url]: Also, there ARE webcomic artists who make enough money through their comic that they don't need to do the 9-5 thing. Randall Munroe, for example. Most need 2nd jobs, but if you have a chance to quit that 2nd job and support yourself solely by doing something you like, you should.
over 9 years ago
[url=#user_comment_355995]@Greener[/url]: Also, people should be able to support themselves by doing something they like. Some webcomic artists--e.g. Randall Munroe--can support themselves solely by making comics. If Jo or anybody has a chance to do the same, then they should take it, and good for them.
over 9 years ago
[url=#user_comment_355995]@Greener[/url]: If you call somebody a pervert and write a post in all caps to yell at him about his comic being bad, then yes, you are being an ungrateful troll.
over 9 years ago
[url=#user_comment_355995]@Greener[/url]: First, if call Jo a pervert in all caps (to name just one example) and aren't joking, yeah, you're being a dick. Second, while lots of artists aren't able to support themselves by their comics alone, if somebody has a chance to do that and quit their crappy RL job then I say go for it.
over 9 years ago
[url=#user_comment_355997]@AckAckAck[/url]: Inorite? The comics are still free to read, new and old alike, so what's the problem with a Patreon? That said, I'd still prefer it if Engie's Game were sold on Steam or something.
over 9 years ago
- heavy traffic cost a lot of money to maintain. Jo made comic to entertain us, not to kiss your balls and pleasure you (unless you're into that).
over 9 years ago
[url=#user_comment_355995]@Greener[/url]: From what I saw, you just ranting and cursing all the way. If you really hate this comic then why you stay here? Even Jo said it himself "Bitching is not" Also regarding cost, sites with
over 9 years ago
- making a Patreon. Bills need to be paid, food need to be bought, website need money to maintain. People who complain are obviously either children or people who never work and supporting a family in their entire life.
over 9 years ago
This guy can only scream, criticize, and yell all the time. Seriously this comic is updated 5 times a week, always free and Jo must handle troll that keep coming out from the woodwork. Gaming culture are a bunch of fickle bitch. Some even call Jo "greedy" for -
over 9 years ago
[url=#user_comment_355987]@Greener[/url]: This guy can only scream, criticize, and yell all the time. Seriously this comic is updated 5 times a week, always free and he must handle troll that keep coming out from the woodwork. Gaming culture are a bunch of fickle bitch. Some even call him "greedy" for -
over 9 years ago
[url=#user_comment_355987]@Greener[/url]: This guy can only scream, criticize, and yell all the time. Seriously this comic is updated 5 times a week, always free and he must handle troll that keep coming out from the woodwork. Gaming culture are a bunch of fickle bitch. Some even call him "greedy" for -
over 9 years ago
[url=#user_comment_355987]@Greener[/url]: This guy can only scream, criticize, and yell all the time. Seriously this comic is updated 5 times a week, always free and he must handle troll that keep coming out from the woodwork. Gaming culture are a bunch of fickle bitch. Some even call him "greedy" for making a Patreon. I mean-
over 9 years ago
[url=#user_comment_355987]@Greener[/url]: This guy can only scream, criticize, and yell all the time. Seriously this comic is updated 5 times a week, always free and he must handle troll that keep coming out from the woodwork. Gaming culture are a bunch of fickle bitch. Some even call him "greedy" for making a Patreon. I mean -
over 9 years ago
[url=#user_comment_355972]@PewnyPL[/url] May I correct you? In the metroid timeline Other M is the second latest part in the series. Btw Other M's gameplay was great, I loved it.
over 9 years ago
@Nerf NOW!!: Then why not just say Smash instead? "Party" is in the name of every Mario Party game, but "Brawl" isn't in the name of every Smash game.
Korvalus
over 9 years ago
Woops, almost forgot. Happy new year 2015 and many rares/epics/hats to everyone!
Korvalus
over 9 years ago
there is a nice "X" button in the upper-right edge of the window. Nobody is going to hold you any grudge for that. Ies, I could say that I want more 40k references or any mention to the www.infinitythegame.com/infinity/es/ wargame (subtely is for newbies) and bitch, but Jo already said his reasons.
ZeroLambda
over 9 years ago
Lurker here. Keep it up, Mr Jo. Don't let the trolls get you down! I for one found this kind of interesting as I never thought of it that way before. I need to play Other M still to see what all of the fuss is about.
Korvalus
over 9 years ago
After all, HIS opinion is what matters to me (he created the comic and can do what he likes with it). But seriously, it's just a comic someone do for free. If you don't like something, you can say, but not like the world is gonna blow for it. If you believe that the comic is (or has become) shit, ->
Korvalus
over 9 years ago
[url=#user_comment_355973]@DoctorMad[/url]: Sometimes we do exist. I can only talk for me, but a lot of times I just come here to read the strip, take a laugh and continue my life, leaving no comment or not even bothering if there's comments at all. I don't think Jo would take offense of that.
over 9 years ago
As silly as this sounds, I'd bet this is quite common.
DoctorMad
over 9 years ago
Okay, i've heard a lot of this "Silent Majority" that people keep talking about on the comments. Honestly, if you have no argument, don't comment. If you have to get a personal army to weight your argument, then DON'T comment. If we don't even know if they exist. Then CERTAINLY don't comment.
over 9 years ago
Dio: "after 7 encounters" ... You know, I said it like 5 times. Timeline, timeline, timeline. Just because Other M is the last released game doesn't mean it's the last chronologically. Everything that happens in it is BEFORE most of those encounters. He literally died ONCE by Other M. I'm done.
Dio
over 9 years ago
->i am fighting some kind of monster that looks like him but has no recollections of who i am and is not intelligent either, else he would go for the insta-kill because he knows he cant win in a direct combat. But since this one is just an animal, why would i fear "him" returning?
Dio
over 9 years ago
->the fact that we are dealing with clones before even reaching Ridley should have me mentally prepared for this inevitable fact. Not that it matters since the Ridley we see acts like an animal, unlike the manga where he speaks (consistency is for pussies). So basically i am not fighting Ridley->
Dio
over 9 years ago
"a complete freakout"
And why would that be the case after 7 encounters? Doesn't she get the memo that no matter how many times Ridley explodes, the guy is going to come back no matter what. I would either think they are either sending the extended family of space dragons to kill me, or ->
over 9 years ago
If it is badass only it is flat, although critics excuse it more on girls (even if they are still boring). If it has feels it is a wuss (guy) or a damsel in distress (girl).
over 9 years ago
Dio: Unless instead of calling it PTSD we'd just go for it being a complete freakout. I mean, how would you act if you saw someone you killed being alive and well?
over 9 years ago
Liked this one, Jo. The proposition of Other M was cool (expanding Samus personality) execution was pretty bad. Still, I would not be sane if my monstrous nemesis came back from hell. It is like a Devil God insisting on keeping Ridley alive.

Dio
over 9 years ago
->cured.

The game and the manga that no one read tries hard to say this is PTSD but as i said before its "Drama/Hollywood PTSD". It works when its convenient and not when it should work like the other times she fought him. Instead of remaining faithful to the games, they opted for Retcons.
Dio
over 9 years ago
PewnyPL: Wrong again because that is NOT how PTSD works. You dont "get used to it", you relive the moment over and over and over. There is no cure for it even in this technological advanced civilization. And if there is then why didn't she treat herself already? That shit will get you killed if not>
over 9 years ago
Dio: Well, the second time it didn't trigger her cause she expected him to come back again. In Other M, "An interquel between Super Metroid and Metroid Fusion" it was the very first time the murderer of her family came back to life after she herself took care of him.
Dio
over 9 years ago
->Using "timeline wise." is an excuse since you know what was after Super Metroid? Metroid Fusion. The game that Other M rips off and fails at. Ridley came back to life too as a X parasite. Did that made her have PTSD? Nope.

Repeat after me: Retcons are bad. "Drama PTSD" is stupid.
Dio
over 9 years ago
>time she faced Ridley the 7 times so far she encountered him.
http://s1188.photobucket.com/user/LousyTactician/media/DOOMAWTBS/samusvsridleyma-1.gif.html

But of course, since they cant have the scene without Retconning the whole series and bad writting, they went ahead and did it.->
over 9 years ago
-> So to Samus, it was the very first time Ridley 'came back from the dead', all other times from earlier game happening AFTER it, timeline wise.
over 9 years ago
Dio: You are missing the point of Other M being sequel to the very first game where she killed him, CHRONOLOGICALLY.
Dio
over 9 years ago
PewnyPL: Irrelevant. She killed him in all the other games, so why would she expect him to NOT show up? Ridley survived being infected by freaking Phazon FFS.

Not to mention, her PTSD is a "Hollywood" version of it. If it was real then she would have the infamous scene in each and every single>
Dio
over 9 years ago
The comment to PewnyPL doesn't show up. I guess the comment system is still broken when trying to address someone directly.
Dio
over 9 years ago
[url=#user_comment_355950]@PewnyPL[/url]: Irrelevant. She killed and faced him in previous games and she didn't had PTSD. The disease ALWAYS triggers no matter what, not when it feels like. You cant have that canonical manga that no one read saying she has PTSD and then pretend it doesn't exist for who knows how many games. ->
Dio
over 9 years ago
->But please, why dont you read the deconstructions and analyses that people have already done about this game? Maybe then you will understand:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/lb_i.php?lb_id=13373815860B43920100&i_id=13373815860I43921400&p=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4ww_NwjC0Q&feature=relmfu
Dio
over 9 years ago
->The canonical Samus up to this point. The Samus that is used as an example of Female Empowerment.

Was it really worth it?

->
Dio
over 9 years ago
-->and when the Prequels were made to explain it NO ONE expected the train-break that they witness.

And lets be frank here, Samus became a secondary character on her own game, and was made into the Platonic ideal of an abusive relationship. There is no way around that. That is what replaced->
over 9 years ago
Guys, I still don't get why everyone goes "Why was Samus a whiny twerp seeing a villain she fought numerous times before"?! Other M is a direct Sequel to Super Metroid, so the game in which Samus KILLED him. So, when she saw him in Other M, she saw a guy she herself killed being back to life.
Dio
over 9 years ago
--> even if she was devoid of character or backstory, adding a broken excuse for story and character and then pretend that having shit is better than having nothing is delucional. Or have you people forgotten that Darth Vader had the same deal (we didn't really knew how he became what it is today)->
Dio
over 9 years ago
"She has to be pissed else Nintendo is "destroying her character" "

Implying she had none. I guess personal treaits or characters cannot be subtle as this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXDdw6VCH-w

To put it bluntly ->
over 9 years ago
The Silent majority loves you and will continue to come, we may not get vocal but I'm sure the Traffic speaks for itself. YOU do what you do best Jo and keep at it!

I know I am staying (even though you like to bash league) BUT THAT IS BESIDES THE POINT!

You are cool in my book my Friend. 2/2
over 9 years ago
Jo, I have been here since the beginning and let me tell you this if you are willing to listen. I have seen the Ups and Downs of this website and my advice to you is this: DO what you want with your Webcomic. IT IS YOURS! No one else's if they do not like it then too bad for them. 1/2
over 9 years ago
Early 21st century phone in a space ship.

Samus is a space hipster.
kingbiefwhistle
over 9 years ago
Oh boy. One comic/post about Samus maybe wanting some human interaction and I knew the comments would be fulla stupid. Don't drink before commenting, kids; sometimes you say embarrassing shit.
over 9 years ago
I actually liked the comic.
over 9 years ago
This reminds me of when I had a job dealing with the public all day. Most people were decent many polite overall easy to deal with but there was always a small percentage of overly-entitled a$$holes that ruined everything. They were like 1% of the public but caused 90% of the problems.
over 9 years ago
Well, personally, i kinda like to see the site varying between the silent strips, the arcs and the one-shot comical strips, like this one... i guess it broadens the range of the site. It's not really selling out, in my opinion... just write about whatever pops up in your mind.

EXCEPT DOTO!

/jk
over 9 years ago
[url=#user_comment_355930]@Hyperstar96[/url]: Because Brawl refer to both the game and a fight (a brawl) on the same way Mario Party refer to both a game and a fun event (a party)
over 9 years ago
Why do you only mention Brawl when talking about Smash Bros? That's such a random game to bring up; not the oldest, newest, or most popular. What's the reasoning behind it?
over 9 years ago
Altho i will agree some of the authorizations Adam removed, like the varia/gravity suit was a dumb gameplay move XP But it was either that or "crap i dropped all my items!" like metroid prime 1 and 2 lol
over 9 years ago
OtherM is actually a good depiction of "what happens when the person who bottle up all its emotions finally snaps" imo. I mean, having to work with her old father figure after destroying her old house only to see her parents killer returning once more after she was certain it died...she needs a hug!
over 9 years ago
[url=#user_comment_355893]@A5PECT[/url]: That is what stuck out to me as well. I cant help but wonder if she mostly works alone because of all those who have died near her.
over 9 years ago
If one looks at what Samus has been through I would find it no suprise if she carries more than a few emotional scars. While Other M was the wrong way to handle it, I dont feel it is the wrong step for her character as I do think a character can be emotionally scarred and badass.
over 9 years ago
I can think of a Nintendo-exclusive (recently) character who likes to party, and also is a badass who wears skimpy clothing ...
over 9 years ago
[url=#user_comment_355919]@Tim[/url]: I'd say fans should think of it like this. Say you hate the direction they took Spider-Man, and prefer the older stuff. You can go back and read the older stuff any time you like. It's the same here.
over 9 years ago
[url=#user_comment_355895]@Greener[/url]: I read Awkward Zombie, Nerf NOW!!, and also visit the Escapist regularly. It's not like I have to choose only one.
over 9 years ago
@J.c. Bengtson: If I ever do decide the comic is bad, then I might post something like "I'm sorry, it's just not fun to read the comic anymore," and then I'd stop reading and leave it at that. I would not keep coming back to complain.
Tim
over 9 years ago
It really irritates me to see people whine about free comics on the Internet. I always appreciate artists who spend their time, energy, and money making free comics to entertain me. Your comics are great Jo! Both the arcs and the single comics. Also +1 on everything Adhesive said
over 9 years ago
@J.c. Bengtson: Well said. I admit that I would enjoy seeing more TF2 strips, and since Jo still plays the game he probably doesn't lack for ideas and inspiration. But I like the other stuff too, and I certainly wouldn't say the current comic is bad.
over 9 years ago
The level of hatred from Greener makes no sense. Either he has some other issue with Jo, or for some reason it really, really, REALLY pisses him off when a webcomic changes in a way he doesn't like. If he doesn't stop, I wouldn't blame you for banning him.
over 9 years ago
IMHO bans should be reserved for serious stuff. But it is one thing to have the opinion "I liked the old stuff better," and say so, and it's another thing to yell at the author and call him a pervert when he hasn't said anything to provoke that kind of reaction and is remaining calm.
over 9 years ago
Basically just saying, with any Internet comment, strip out the emotion and look at the point of the text itself. While I don't post here often, I do appreciate the ability to do so, and would be saddened by these going away. On behalf of everyone who lurks and just reads your comic, thank you.
over 9 years ago
One of the "silent" majority speaking up here. There will always be haters, and while expressed in a disrespectful manner, you have to look at this way: you've created something that people are passionate about. Your comic. And they want it to be the best it can be. And that.. is a kind of love.
Valiantsix
over 9 years ago
Just remember Jo, like any place on the internet where you can write comments there are always gonna be people who are just gonna be a major pain. I agree with Adhesive in that you have a silent majority really enjoy your comics. Have a Happy New year and keep up the awesome work dude!
over 9 years ago
you know mario if you cant invite samus atleast invite bowser already so i dont have to suffer though Bowser spaces
over 9 years ago
[url=#user_comment_355895]@Greener[/url]: First you yell at Jo and call him a pervert, then plead with him not to sink to the level of lesser webcomics, because he's better than that; pick a tactic and stick to it.
Thegameforestguy
over 9 years ago
You cannot read any photo notes, for mine covers all.
over 9 years ago
The only way forward for metroid right now would be for samus to go Dragon Ball, find like two rookies in distress and make 'em new boutny hunters to get rid of power creep.
over 9 years ago
and that doesn't go around beating a dead horse. Plus you its still fun to watch you talk about some games and how in touch you are with the community at large.
over 9 years ago
And just know that the silent majority does like you. I Hope though that they should decide to join and at least bring their voices in support of you. As for other saying your stale, don't believe them. You are one of the only only gaming webcomics out their that post about older and newer games -
over 9 years ago
[url=#user_comment_355900]@Adhesive[/url]: I'll think of something...
over 9 years ago
If you decide to shut off comments or start moderating some people i would completely understand Jo. I've read your comic for a couple years and I've seen some of the community turn pretty sour. Just please try not get too sad and angry at those loud bad apples.
over 9 years ago
There was a bounty hunter
In the dephs of space
And she could esily combine
Your stupid ass with your face

Her name was Samus Aran
And she destroyed Metroid
And when she wasn't totally pissed
She was extrimely annoyed (c) Starbomb
http://youtu.be/xQDPuODPLDw
RVN
over 9 years ago
You could have waited until 3rd of january to be this bitchy, couldn't you?
Or at least until it's not new year's eve.
A5PECT
over 9 years ago
The only exceptions I can think of are Adam and those moth guys from Echoes.

Not sure the first one entirely counts because he did die, then was brought back, and the moth dudes survived because they put themselves in comas while Samus murdered everything else on the planet.
A5PECT
over 9 years ago
Having played through Super Metroid to Echoes, the one thing that stuck out to me is that anyone that meets Samus has a tendency to die horribly shortly afterwards. E.g. Her parents, space pirates, Federation marines, other bounty hunters, the entire Chozo race, etc.
over 9 years ago
@Mark Orapello: The silent comics are like peeper. Some people LOVE it, but many more simply won't give it a chance. I could say the are a success between the critics, but lack popular appeal.
over 9 years ago
Oh, and I'm not deriding you for your 'selling out'. You were making money when you made the art, as you say, and could have built a fanbase off that. It's the easy road I have a problem with, the lack of effort that I saw when I started on your site.
over 9 years ago
-I ever choose to read your comics again, I plan on copying my favorite arcs to my computer so that I might re-read them without rewarding you for... well for having art and giving it up for a couple dollars.
over 9 years ago
-becoming fodder for dark humor at their expense. You say you like happy endings, but it was just plain cruel. And the arcs that were so inspiring have been left on the wayside for video game jokes. I actually enjoyed the arcs, and found the jokes in between a welcome break while archive diving. If-
over 9 years ago
Decided to post here, if only for a moment, the reason why in one night I fell in and out of love with your webcomic. It started with an interesting premise, silent webcomics with thought. And it ended with a gag a day that I see everywhere else. The characters I enjoyed at the beginning ended up-
ksl
over 9 years ago
Greener, maybe you should sit out the next couple of plays, huh?
over 9 years ago
[url=#user_comment_355876]@Bajingo[/url]: Yes, but after M, Nintendo won't risk. Samus will be forever a armor suit now (and ocasionally a skin-tight suit), that's my point.
Bajingo
over 9 years ago
Theres a large difference between Samus showing emotions, and Samus becoming a whiny little twerp in the sight of a villain shes fought numerous times before without collapsing into WAAAAAH PLS HELP ME.