I MEETING MY OLDER SELF

Must have been suprising following E3 ey? TBH Nintendo ruined PS3 and xbox 360 in console sales until about 7 months ago when xbox caught up. Nintendo failed with the hardcore gamers but they have the casual market completely in their control.

Wii U, next year.

Needs more blast processing.

author blurb is lol

Ugh. Project Café is like Dreamcast, I fucking swear.

Actually, rumour has it that Nintendo is working on another console. It's an HD thing, and that's everything we know about it. They are going to Second-Party Developers with it before they go to us, however. That's why so little is known. However, I am eager to see what comes out of E3 this year~

http://nerfnow.com/comic/498 ... Yes, Nintendo will give up a market in which it is the current leader by a huge margin, because it won't be able to win the next generation based on... uhm... uh... LOOK AT THE PRETTY BUNNY!

PC = Master Race.

I remember when I used to be a rampant Nintendo fanboy. Then the wii came out and I quit consoles altogether.

"a fight they can win" says he, while the Wii leads the PS3 and X360 in console sales the same way the PS2 USED to lead.

And I thought the Sony loyalists were delusional...

Seriously??? Dude, 49% of all console purchses in the US for 2010 were Wii's. And, over the past several years in the US two Wii's have been sold for every PS3. Hardcore gamers may not want a Wii, but casual gamers are eating it up. There will definetly be another Nintendo console.

http://uk.wii.ign.com/articles/116/1161875p1.html

FAIL

I can't see from where that came from, Jo. Even before any leaks about Nofriendo's next HD homeconsole there was no indication they'd leave the market. I think you got it backwards, rather then focusing their ressources on handhelds they would invest more in both homeconsole and handheld. iE HD y c?

THE JOKE IS THAT SEGA DOESNT MAKE CONSOLES ANYMORE. Just fyi

AHAHAHAHA

Just two days after this was posted, info was leaked about the "Project Café," Nintendo's new home console.

(http://mynintendonews.com/2011/04/15/nintendo-wii-the-nintendo-wii-2-is-known-internally-as-project-cafe-more-details-emerge/)

Heh, Nintendo not staying in the home console market... good one, Jo.

I'm not gonna say Nintendo will always be in the home console market, but most likely they'll be the LAST to leave it.

http://www.gamesradar.com/wii/wii/news/new-nintendo-hd-console-confirmed-by-multiple-sources-for-late-2012/a-2011041413115416098/g-20060308165433320026

The problem with Nintendo is this new philosophy that modern hardware isn't important because they'll never be able to please people for long- which is bullshit as the bleeding edge is a PC thing, and most 360/PS3 owners are content with what they have hardware-wise. But Takeda isn't a logical man.

[url=#user_comment_60993]@Enlong[/url]: I'm not a fanboy to anything in this comic. Only to Mass Effect and Final Fantasy made before Number 10. That and Sean Connery and Harrison Ford, but that's more a schoolgirl crush than a fanboy thing.

@Dead Herald: As are you. So what?

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/109268-New-Nintendo-Console-Confirmed-for-E3

[url=#user_comment_60981]@Mac[/url]: Damnit...you beat me too it

Oh hey, it seems Jo's wrong:

http://ca.kotaku.com/5792165/new-nintendo-console-debuting-at-e3-launching-in-2012-more-powerful-than-xbox-360-and-ps3

[url=#user_comment_60960]@Gammaj4[/url]: I won't speculate on that. It's far too early.

[url=#user_comment_60956]@someguy[/url]: Absolutely.

[url=#user_comment_60961]@Dee[/url]: For the same reason electric hand mixers don't compete with consoles. They were sold to different demographics. Some people like both (like me) but in general, the gamer who buys an X360 exclusively for Halo and Gears of War has absolutely no reason to buy a Wii.

Perfect timing on the death of Nintendo Consoles comment. Unless this is a prank, Kotaku says that there is a new Nintendo system coming out, that is more advanced than an Xbox, or a PS3. Unknown if it will replace Wii.
Not to be mean, but it is funny.

http://kotaku.com/#!wii2/57921

[url=#user_comment_60956]@someguy[/url]: OMFG NEW POERTAL OMG OMG-Everyone but the wii fanboys.

What are you smoking? The Wii was ridiculously profitable. How does that translate into being unable to compete in the console industry?

@Dead Herald: Well, Metroid Prime Trilogy and the Super Mario Galaxies.
But even if the only games on the console had been Wii sports and Wii play, Nintendo would still be making a new console, because Nintendo is a business.

@Dead Herald Yeah, there are fanboys, but listen to this. "OMFG NEW MARIO OMG OMG!"-Wii fanboy "OMFG NEW HALO OMG OMG"-Xbox 360 fanboy. "OMFG NEW LITTLE BIG PLANET OMG OMG!"-PS3 fanboy. do you see any similarities?

[url=#user_comment_60949]@Michael[/url] Who said they make shovelware? They produce quality games. Well, unless by shovelware you mean the M&M liscensed crap and such.

[url=#user_comment_60949]@Michael[/url]: No one is claiming the Wii wasn't a financial success, but what did it really do for gaming?

They don't need to compete with the 360 or the ps3,they made bucketloads of money from all the cheap shovelware games they put out for the Wii aimed at a more general market. fairly sure they make a profit on consoles too unlike ps3 who sold cheaper for market share.

For added effect, listen to Alex Day's 'Sonic Doesn't Need A Story':
goo.gl/eFS65

@!!!: PS3 has better specs. But that's made moot by the fact that most designers develop for the 360 and port over.

I'm not sure what you mean by "restrained by the left".

[url=#user_comment_60931]@Enlong[/url]: And you're a fanboy. What's your point?

@Dead Herald: This generation probably marks the closest we have to anti-competition. The PS3 and the X360 are basically the same in specs and have the same third party games, the Wii refuses to compete with either and pulls an Apple. No wonder I've lost interest in consoles...

@Dead Herald: No, no, no. Blame EVERYONE. Sometime around 1980, companies realized they were no longer restrained by the Left in America (which died). And they no longer had to compete. So, they made the best effort not to (because competition cuts into profits). It's only now affecting gamers.

I demand a Solid Snake themed console that looks like a cardboard box.

Nintendo already announced that they are working on a new console , more info on this E3 or the next one.

So far its xbox for big game selection, ps3 for ultimate quality, wii for retrogaming and the new delivery of old series, nintendo actually has very nice series but depending on them for every new console wont make it flourish, nintendo does rock on the handhelds though

Aready has also you might like to remember the wii is exceptionally easy to hack for burned games and even easy to do that also attracted lots of buys but companies actually loose money from consoles normally they win money from games and accesories so marketwise its not a good decition.

Actually while wii sales have been nice you must remember wii approach was to sell cheap and sell to people that not normally play videogames, while they mught buy a wii and a wiifit or so, they wont buy a lot of games for that sistem and so nintendo looses more third party producers than it (cont)

Seconded. Every last piece of it.

@Dead Herald: Oh. You were serious?

...You poor bastard.

Uhhhh no Nintendo made too much money with the Wii to not make another system.

A fight they think they can win?

They sold almost as many consoles as their rivals put together, and you think they don't think they'll win?

I mean, far be it from me to comment on the quality of games or consoles I haven't played on, but commercial success is largely uncontroversial.

[url=#user_comment_60914]@ThatImposter[/url]: When you enter Nintendo territory, you'll always have to deal with fanboys.

Alright, that's it. No facts, no wikis, no fanboys, Fox only, Final Destination.

oh, arc is done. how nice!

[url=#user_comment_60906]@BAppleman[/url]: As I've stated earlier. The Wii has had large unit sales, and four or five big selling titles. But has done poorly beyond this. Nintendo's restrictive third party policies are the problem. Yes, they've made money. But it won't last with this approach.

(cont.) Then again, they never were a 'hardcore' market. And thats because games never were 'hardcore' to begin with. Think Pong had communities like MGE, or Gamebattles, or CEVO, ESEA? CAL? Maybe arcade contests and tournies but... not comp communities like today.

Sorry but... Nintendo, as far as profit is concerned, it destroying the other consoles and always has. In terms of 'hardcore' gamers, of course, they don't really have it out there and don't pretend to, but then again as was said by the artist; they're smart and won't fight battles they can't win.

<continued> The Wii games sales make the other system sales look tike they were being produced in a one room apartment.

So I've read a few posts that say that Nintendo video game sales are dismal but if you read the wiki on it, it's wiki and I didn't write it so i don't know of its accuracy (so believe it or not) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games .

One day.... when SEGA execs are no longer headed by morons, then the new console will rise! and you all see! YOU ALL WILL SEE! MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

I might be wrong I'm pretty certain that Nintendo has a lead in sales. http://www.cracked.com/article_16196_the-7-commandments-all-video-games-should-obey_p7.html
http://kotaku.com/#!5423791/nintendo-ds-wii-top-nov-us-console-sales-xbox-360-bests-ps3

[url=#user_comment_60897]@Caan[/url]: Squeenix could do to shape up a bit. FFXIII was critically panned and with good reason. FFXIV was a major disaster. They are in serious need of finding a direction.

Ok, I fail at that @ thing. ¬¬

On another companies's consoles.
Didn't I mention Capcom and Square-Enix? Do they have any consoles? No. But they have excellent games and franchises, and have endured more than 20 years in the video game market.

@Liro Raeriyo: Blame Nintendo, I do.

i remember were wars like this were a good thing, people would compete with quality goods and we would be the benefactors of the results, nowadays though... it seems like you come up with a gimmick, run it dry and move on to the next before someone else does it

Want comments fast? Have old and new Sonic in a comic next to each-other, and say there might not be another Nintendo console!

[url=#user_comment_60834]@Enlong[/url]: Satire? You sir, are clearly out of the loop.

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Nintendo getting into a fight it can't win? And the in the comments... they should stop trying to 'match' Microsoft and Sony? Uh.. 360 and PS3 sales COMBINED barely top over the Wii. I'm REALLY not sure if I'm being trolled here or not x_x

I think nintendo should go back and revisit what made them famous. Get back to the platformer and stay away from trying to match companies like Microsoft and Sony.

[url=#user_comment_60859]@Caan[/url]: yes they need, where would their games run on?

Amirite?

At the end of the day, the real question isn't what console you use, or what games you play. What matters is having fun. And winning. And making all the little children cry while you no-scope them with a sniper-rifle, or beat their character to death in a fighting game.

Really? I couldn't find anything about Nintendo planning to stop competing in the console market. That claim by it self is just stupid and retarded. As long as its making profit it doesn't really matters if its winning or losing against XBox and PS. Go troll yourself.

I have been wondering for awhile how Nintendo would follow up the Wii. Before Move and Kinetic, I had assumed they would go in one of those directions; but now they can't. Nintendo won't compete directly with MS/Sony. Hence, 3D and motion controls. But core consoles only support so many gimmicks.

[url=#user_comment_60856]@Narbodi[/url] Ehm.. whos that going to piss off? i have the same situation even though im lower class, games arent that expensive if you don't waste money on things like alcohol, clothes and food :D

lobster, his fingers are dicks, thats why he uses glauntets

Personally I don't think any of the console companies are going to put out any new console for a while namely because they really don't need to
they are improving graphic capabilities with improved engines
Don't believe me look up the new Cryengine and new Unreal engine

Great companies don't need consoles, like Capcom and Square-Enix.

[url=#user_comment_60841]@Grahav[/url]: that it was a promotional gift and any one who didn't grab it now must find it on some side download site.

[url=#user_comment_60856]@Narbodi[/url]: upper middle class citizens unite!

By the way, just to piss someone off: I have all three consoles, and a computer. One week I might use the Wii, another the PS3 (60 gig early model, whoo!), or the 360 (Launch-edition 'premium' model, still hasn't succumbed to red-ring heatdeath, learn to play, bitches!).

What is the sound of one hundred fans raging?
Not that hard to figure out. Just go somewhere that video games are a common topic and bring up the "console wars".

I prefer to call it the "fanwhore wars", myself. It's all fun until a master comes along and debases all over the facts.

I completely agree with you on that. The wii has become so dry of a development platform that nintendo needs to move onto something else. However, I believe the 3ds is just the beginning. Nintendo should move it's massive gaming library to a more spacious platform in cloud or PC environments.

Any thoughts about Sega destroying the Streets of Rage project?

@Dead Herald:

Bravo, good sir. You are a master of satire. You almost had me believing you for a moment, but you were smart enough to insert the proper amount of insane assertions to make it clear that it was a joke.

Maybe TOO insane, though. It came on a little thick toward the end.

"Nintendo, LoL. They're gonna drown when they go after Apple. The 3DS was a disaster of Virtual Boy proportions as well. And the Wii is nothing more than a toy for douchey toddlers and bowling grannies."

And I suppose the PSP was a work of art hmm?

(cont)...also was packed with a peripheral. Although the Wii Wheel was more of an overlay. Aside from that, the Wii has shown to be horrible at moving software. While it may have moved a lot of units, it failed to do anything more than open a new market which has already abandoned the console.

Thing about the Wii is that the console moved a lot of units, but the software sales were pathetic. The biggest sellers on that system were Wii Sports (a pack-in so it doesn't count), Wii Play, which came with an extra Wiimote and was essentially the same game. And Mario Kart Wii, which... (cont)

Nintendo, LoL. They're gonna drown when they go after Apple. The 3DS was a disaster of Virtual Boy proportions as well. And the Wii is nothing more than a toy for douchey toddlers and bowling grannies.

VIRTUAL BOY II!

Nah, Nintendo's console has legs. Downloadable content alone can sustain the Wii, and they can still rake in a pile of dough with every Mario/Zelda/Metroid/Pokemon etc release. The Wii development paid for itself a long time ago. While it can no longer compete with xbox and PS3, it's still profit

If the 3DS was the future for Nintendo, then I feel bad for them. It didn't sell spectacularly and they are hardly advertising it (compared to their other devices).

I think you're off on the "no new Nintendo console" thing, Jo.

Nintendo makes money on every console they sell. They have such a following that people will buy multiple consoles merely because they are different colors. They will make a new console, and new versions of each. And money. $Lots.

Nintendo called Apple the enemy and for good reason. Apple isn't even trying to compete for the casual market but have already sucked away WiiWare developers. That $99 entry fee for iOS development (700 if you include a MacMini) trumps the Wii kit.

Also you assume that casuals will buy Wii 2 like Wii 1. They won't. Why should they when nintendo gave them everying (sports resort 1&2, fit, Mario parties) they need to keep their party/fitness center. They aren't doing it for Zelda, they won't care.

The problem for Nity is over the last 4 years the causal market has shifted. I don't need a $250 console, I have my $250 phone I can anywhere. It likely already has better guts then the Wii or 3DS. iOS or Android doesn't matter. Nity has had the casual rug pulled from under it.

@Kinect and Move: Yeah, AND botha re worse than the Wiis motion tracking. If youre gonna try to oneup Nintendo, at least try to be better than them.

One last thing: Even without Pokemon, the gameboy had a much longer life than the gamegear. Both companies were toying with new products; sure, VirtualBoy and the PowerGlove sucked, but things like the DS and the Wii were enormously successfu. I don't need to be a fanatic to keep the faith on big N.

BTW, the Xbox Kinect and PS Move are obvious attempts at trying to target the Wii's audience. Microsoft and Sony don't give a shit on focusing only on their supposedly hardcore-gamer audience, they'll go where the cash is. But the Wii is still cheapier, so Nintendo will stay on the market.

You are forgetting that Nintendo actually opened the videogaming market for a whole niche who wasn't interested in games in the beginning. A lot of softcore gamers bought the Wii because of silly games, that's why Wii sales are so big. And if they bought the Wii, they'll buy the Wii2, too.

I really love some of the work that Nintendo do, but good God do they suck at using the Internet. They have some neat ideas for hardware, but at this point they should either get better programmers or leave the building of operating systems to people more skilled then they are.

Ditto with Blargmcblarg - Nintendo does ridiculous things like the Wii all the time. Hell, the PowerGlove was basically a direct copy of the thing. :|

I suspect, maybe two or three years down the road, we'll see some new, crackpot idea from Nintendo for a home console.

No new nintendo consoles? Nintendo Wii has sold... IDK, bazillion units more than both PS3 and Xbox 360?

Oh Sonic, you poor bastard.

Cont.: No arguing, what Nintendo has done sucks (if you care about gaming) but it has made fat stacks of cash.
The only other avenue I can see Nintendo broken on the home market by is if we see some home console form of the iPhone's app market.

Don't see the argument put forth in the commentary. Nintendo has made a ton shilling to casuals, ok, it now faces fights with Apple, etc. But that's the handheld market. Casuals will still throw cash at a home console that appeals to them. Unless MS & Sony also abandon hardcore: No contest exists.

Nintendo will wait for the next videogame crash to rise from their ashes.

Wii did sold very well but now all the others have wii like controls and better machines so unless Nintendo comes with another revolution it will be tought for them.

"Nintendo knows better than to fight a fight it won't win."

BECAUSE THE WII SOLD SO POORLY RITE GUIZE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VonhgARLb5U

"Now the other two companies are racing to follow the Wii... wonder why?"

PS3 and 360 can be Wii.
Wii can`t be 360 or PS3.

Hardware wise, they just need motion controller and they can compete with Wii. While Wii will never get into their territory.

@ Platypus: That seems pretty irrelevent, considering how high their salese have been. What they did do was chose not to make the same old design concept of a slightly better version of the last one. Now the other two companies are racing to follow the Wii... wonder why?

And then they will emerge as a beautiful Butterfee, I mean, butterfly.

But yeah, what? The Wii's doin' fine.

seems like as good a time as ever for Nintendo to just spend some time in a sort of chrysalis state. Lord knows they've probably got the capital to do it, spend some years purely on R&D, while throwing some dev time at their handheld line.

Jo may have a point there. Not so much about the console being watered down, but Nintendo could always just take a break to regroup and come up with ideas for their next big console.............

What? Are you joking? Wii has been outselling its competition for awhile now in both home and handheld. The comparison to SEGA doesn't even make sense. The Dreamcast failed because it didn't sell enough, and they were selling above cost, hoping their game sales will make up for it.

LOL are you retarded? The Wii is the number one seller this generation, by a long shot. PS3 has caught up and outsold it for a few months, but it's got a long way to go before it can even imagine catching up.

Nintendo ain't goin' nowhere.

And then the iPhone and Android devices came in. People are far more content with cheap, easy to play games on handhelds nowadays. I think Nintendo is in more trouble in the Handheld market than they make it out to be.

[url=#user_comment_60757]@ThatImposter[/url] Actually based on what i have seen on the halo fourms the halo fanboys are complaining about their game more than nintendo fans

Nintendo: Well, off to visit your motherboards!

Nintendo is DOMINATING Xbox!
Nintendo: Nothing personal, I just had to shut your Halo fanboys up.

Nintendo is DOMINATING Sony!
Nintendo: May I borrow your earpiece? This is Sony, Casuals make me cry, Over!

...If that's the case, then Nintendo will lose. I don't think there has been this negative a response to a Nintendo device since the Virtual Boy. Also, Apple has been subverting the entire gaming industry with the iPod Touch (and, once they realise the MMO potential of it, the iPad)...

If my memory of an old article that I read is correct, all it really is, is a Wii with upgraded hardware. Motion+ maybe standard or such, but not much but a better Wii is planned.

*phew* I hate being long winded at times. Not sure if I ever used less than 3 posts.

The best thing Microsoft and Sony have going for them is that their games sell for more $60 new, compared to $50 for the Wii (PC games seem to start following the $60 model >.<)

2. Nintendo is the only known company actually working on creating the next generation, so a Wii 2 if you will. cont.

umm, couple of things.

1. As stated the Wii has dominated the last cycle of "the Console Wars," at least to the extent that Microsoft and Sony both have developed their own motion capture features. Each Wii was also sold at a profit, unlike the other two. cont.

Dang so this is going to be like "Turtles Forever"? Only with Sonic in a glaze look of horror staring at screens of different Fiction written about him?

Hum...your commentary for this comic was sarcasm right? They have sold a lot more house console then Sony and Microsoft and most of the games that sell the most on the Wii are Nintendo games! They arent just winning the home console war, they are utterly dominating Sony and Microsoft!

I've been console free for over ten years and I feel great!

Now if only I could kick the PC gaming habit...
Damn cyber crack.

pehaps when holograms have been perfected will something really futuristic come around. .3.

[url=#user_comment_60720]@the14th[/url] With no games/software. Tell me, in last 3 years where have all the block buster titles been? By all rights should have had a Wii 2 with hardware that trumped Xbox and Playstation in 2009, 2010 at the latest. I always saw the Wii as a placeholder, which was never replaced.

Poor, poor Sega. They've become the place where dreams go to die. Looking back, it's ironic how Sony defeated them, then went on to become just like them. Sony has been inexplicably able to get away with rampant stupidity longer than Sega did, but Sony and Sega are still 4-letter words today.

You do realize that Nintendo is the biggest seller in the home console market this gen, right?

IMO Ninty didn't leave the hardcore market, it just moved to the DS. Contra, two SMT games, Henry Hatsworth, the Etrian Odessey games, etc. Honestly I've haven't had to look that far for a decent game. Unless you mean first party games, I still waiting for the next 2D Metroid game myself.

@Darth Mario,
But only on first party titles. Nintendo shot themselves by being ornery with 3rd parties. What they sold was a $250 party station and yuppy fitness center. And I own part shares in one.

As of March 31, according to Nintendo, the Wii has sold 70.93 million units worldwide,[39]:1 selling 20.53 million units within 2009-2010 fiscal year.

This is wikipedia, but.
On January 6, 2011, Microsoft stated that the Xbox 360 sold over 50 million units wordwide during their CES 2011 conference.
Playstation 3: 47.9 million as of December 31, 2010.
In January 2009 Sony announced that their gaming division was profitable in Q3 2008.

There was the Wii (2006). Then came the iPhone (2007). Now a plumber perspires (2011).
Sorry folks, Apple and Google have hit Nintendo in the market it opened, casual gamers. Why should I buy anything by Nintendo when Sega makes it all for iOS. An iPod does what a DS does, and web, and music, and

The hell are you talking about? Nintendo holds an overwhelming market share in the console wars and has made obscene amounts of money off of the Wii by opening up an entirely new market among casual gamers. To predict that they're going to give that up is ridiculous.

Unknown, I'm going to have to give you a resounding yes to that statement. Apple has certainly proven that.

As far as the "average hardcore gamer" constantly updating their console... Wat. Is updating every 5 to 6 years, when the next generation of console appears, constantly?

Nintendo really has no reason to leave the home console market. Not only do they have the most successful console of this generation, even when they didn't, they never stopped making money. The N64 was second-place, the GameCube third, but they both still turned significant profits.

I'd expect Nintendo to abandon the handheld market before the console market. It might be hard to fight the power-is-everything consoles, but it's even harder to fight subsidized cell phones. People are pulling hairs because of the price tag on the 3DS. Meanwhile, Evo 3D has better hardware for $200

I disagree with you...Nintendo won't bow out of the console market...namely because they are in a completely different market than their supposed competitors Sony and Microsoft. They may not ever be able to beat them or compete with them but then again they don't have to...

As for Kinect, it has the POTENTIAL to threaten the Wii, but it won't use it. Microsoft already has a specific market for the 360, and they've spent a long time building on it. They aren't going to take the risks needed to make anything big for Kinect. At the end of the day, it's just a peripheral.

The Wii's outrageously huge market share suggests to me that while there may be no new Nintendo console, the Wii isn't going anywhere any time soon. Might as well just keep building on what they've already got, yeah? They don't actually NEED a new console.

However, are they are likely to have trouble keeping these "ridiculous sales" going over new consoles? The average hardcore gamer keeps updating their console in order to stay right up to date with the latest and greatest games. Is the average casual gamer going to splash out in the same way?

I dunno. Is the Kinect that much of a "threat" to Wii? Sure, it does have the upper hand in graphics, but this new system... hmm... Dunno, lacking buttons, you can't do that many cool games.
Sony's maracas came too late to be considered at all.

Nintendo has abandoned their old market - the people that grew up on Nintendo consoles. Mothers and non-gamers make more money.

No, they won't leave the "console" market. But at the same time, they've already left the hardcore gaming console market, and won't be coming back.

Nintendo has always launched a handheld before a new console. IMHO if anything the 3ds is too expensive. Beefy is what sunk sony, nintendou knows better.

But the Wii has absolutely dominated the console market. As much as the hardcore market may complain about it, the Wii still has ridiculous sales of both consoles and software. Why would Nintendo abandon such a cash cow?

I really doubt nintendo will opt out of the console market next generation. They made far too much money off of the wii.

There will always be a pokemon franchise so it's only logical there would always be a nintendo handheld.

http://imgur.com/gallery/pOsk3

Poor ol chubby sonic...