What people are saying about "No Refunds"
No Refunds
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6 months ago
Damn dirty traitors...
6 months ago
kickstarter needs to update their fucking policies.
6 months ago
"Competition is good for you"
Yeah, but where is that competition? What Epic does is not competing, they are fighting monopoly with their own monopoly. They don't try to win customers over, they just buy exclusivity for the product so for end users, it's Epic's way or the highway.
6 months ago
@Keith Oberschulte No kidding, if they are doing nothing with them, why should i care? they are making so much cash out of skins for dota and cs? TF, L4D, HL ARE DEAD, they dont care.
Nor epic nor steam are underdogs, but competition is good for you, i dont care about the billionares fighting.
6 months ago
Oh, so they made a promise and people gave them money on the basis of that promise, then they change the deal?
Lawyers everywhere just came.
6 months ago
About the only way Epic could screw their client up any worse is if they stored their passwords in plaintext. It's not an "it's not Steam" complaint, it's "these guys are terrible at their job and getting away with it because they throw boatloads of money around".
6 months ago
Steam kids back at it again, I'm only seeing old "PC" and PS4 advertisement, but oh well, everybody knows pc games only can be launched at steam, or at least in steam too
6 months ago
@Iván Goren
Are you kidding me? You've never heard of Half-Life, Team Fortress, Left 4 Dead, Portal or Counter-Strike? That must be one HELLUVA rock you've been living under.

Epic is no underdog. They're using corporate tactics to manipulate the market in their favor, not the customers'.
6 months ago
Its shitty that they changed that, but damn i dont know why ppl love steam when it's only a plataform, they give you nothing, Valve's games are dota and nothing else (artifact failed heavy) i like that epic is trying to bring them down, so they have to do something to keep everyone somehow.
6 months ago
@Steve Simpson
Epic's entire business model nowadays is all about ignoring the law and bribe everyone to look the other way. There's nothing legal or moral about it, and they don't even try to hide or deny it. They won't get sued, because it's much easier and profitable to just take their money.
6 months ago
The only game I ever paid for in advance was early access sale (it was like $13) for Ark: Survival Evolved. Nowadays, with how many updates they've done for to put in features but almost zero stabilization/optimization, I'm lucky if I get past the graphics settings page to dial them down.
6 months ago
The whole Epic Exclusive thing just irritates me all to hell. It's one thing to try and open a competing business against Steam, but poaching customers with this exclusive shit is so shady. I really want nothing more than for everyone to just shun Epic entirely.
6 months ago
@Steve Simpson Epic is splashing so much money around, that one kickstarter campaign that went epic exclusive stated that they could sell zero units and still make a profit with the deal they made.
6 months ago
What they SHOULD worry about is that because the kickstarter stated that they'd have it available on steam, that they are breaching their agreement and they can be sued for breach of contract and lose EVERYTHING from the kickstarter campaign.
6 months ago
I'm not too sure how much the choice to turn to epic exclusivity while ruining your reputation for years to come is in the hands of the developers. Business world has time and time again shown us that the sleaziest moneymakers know how to jump ship and rebrand without apparent connections to past.
6 months ago
@José: I think, instead of a refund, I'd rather they backtrack on their Epic Games Store deal. Put the logic to them like this: "What's the point of getting an extra 18% per copy after release, if you're going to lose 75% of purchases?"
6 months ago
I once backed a game on kickstarter that said they'd have a x feature, but in the end they changed their minds about it. I got pissed and demanded to have a refund, and they agreed (though i changed my mind due to their politeness)... maybe they'd do the same (give a refund) if people complained.