I'm still adamant on not touching it after the shit-tastic endings of 3. Mass Effect is dead to me.

It's like saying Star Wars aint Star Wars if it doesen't have Luke & the rest in it. This is just my opinion.

@Nick Moody: Sorry, I meant they dont have much to do with eachother other then being set in the same universe 20+ years before and after the original. Which is what Andromeda does starting around ME3 and then taking place 300 years, i believe, later. Same universe, new people and enviroments.

To be fair, the ME3 multiplayer was REALLY fun. It was a little strange not playing Shepard, but there really was enough to the various races, classes, and enemy types that I didn't even miss it. That tells me there's enough in the 'bones' to still be fun in a new setting.

@Snadzies: Thanks, I didn't need to say this myself. Fem Shep is the only Shep.

it should be though? No!

That's why there's so much salt.

did up to this point? Did Bioware really think that wasn't a shit ending? It took 4 months of salt after release for Bioware to be like, ok ok, that was a shit ending. Here we fleshed it out a bit more. Is this better? Yes it's better, It should have been there in the first place. Is it everything

That all of your choices, up to that point were irrelevant. It's some grade A bullshit, you do so much, that should change the fate of the galaxy and it was all summed up with. Everyone fuses with machines, all machines die, or enslave all machines. What about my party? What about all the things I

And the complete salt about ME3s ending is totally warranted! It took months of bitching for them to create the *directors cut* ending, which actually detailed the end. The original end was only different in the color of explosion from making your choice. All of them fucking sucked. It also means

I honestly don't expect much, Bioware's writing has gone to shit anyway. Remember Dragon Age:Inquisition?
Bioware writers are pretty much writing for the LGBT crowd. Oh you're not gay? WELL ENJOY YOUR COMPLETE BITCH WAIFU BECAUSE YOU CANNOT ENJOY A NICE PERSON, AS ALL STRAIGHT PEOPLE ARE CUNTS.

Its like Final Fantasy game, other game, other characters, same races and system.

I was going to post some clever comments about trailers and continuities, but this comments page is already too full of nerdrage.

Just saying, the serie is called "Mass Effect" because based on a sci-fi universe where the "mass effect" is the (psuedo-)scientific principle behind most of the technologies existing. The Final Fantasy games have nothing to do with each other's storyline, nobody complains about it.

Another game? an expansion to 3? what?
AH well, I could never get past the boring section after the first battle so I just never bothered. And steam only has 1&2 so, meh. I have other games. (actually I do own them but, meh.)

Him?
That clearly must have been a typo as Fem Shep is only Shep.

-sigh- because GOD KNOWS that it's totally time to have a nervous breakdown over a game we've seen a handful of trailers from.

Don't wait and see - don't approach it with an open mind - let's just all go batshit before we've even tried it. That way - when we get it - we can be REALLY pissy.

and THERE are other species alongside the humans on this journey confirmed so far turians and asari.

the timeline says the journey begins 2165 bc that means shortly after the first contact war against the turians, BEFORE they even had contact with the reapers. so it ME:andromeda dont even comes into contact with the current trilogy.

Nah, the Human ship was one of four. From the trailer we can see at least Asari and Salarians, so one can assume they were from the others and it'd make sense for Turrians to occupy the fourth.

The "ending wave" only affected the Milky Way Galaxy, so for Andromeda, the ending would indeed not matter if the mission departed before the ME story.

I'm also happy the synthesis ending didn't end up sticking, that was the one I liked the least.

Well, that could have been done better, but I understood the final steps as "Shepards way", not the other characters', and the ending movies do change based on who remains alive, as in the Collector Base mission. Hence, I didn't mind it much, every choice can only carry for so long.

@Benoit Gauthier: Because the choices made during the whole SERIES are ultimately mere points added to the 'anti-reaper score count', and have no further significance.

For example, in ME2 you could choose to keep the collector base, but that doesnt change anything in the end, when it should.

I never undrestood all the salt of never satisfied fan. Mass effect 3 was 5 years ago, time to move on. I never understood the "my choice did not matter". In Mass effect 3 you literally chose to save or eradicate entire races, if that is not a consequence i do not know what is.

Mass effect is not called "shepard story" or "reaper story". Andromeda is still in the same universe, same technology, same space magic, sames races, same human theme. The new trailer show many things related to the mass effect itself.

Jared, that's a nice straw men you're building them.

The ME3 ending wasn't fixed, the universe is still annihilated for new stories. Hell, they can't even put AIs into Andromeda because it would prove the ending had no meaning.

I'm not actually sure what anyone's problem is with Mass Effect. It's like however many hours you loved of the games disappeared in the last five minutes of the last game, and everyone wants to whine about how they hated the whole series. Even after the fix, you whine.

Will the butthurt ever end?

well, they can reuse all the races and lore and stuff, i think is more the feeling of nostalgia for players like me, and can be very interesting for new players, i hope i can go full vanguard again.

@Oliver König: thank God that ain't true. Although i picked the synthesis ending myself, it is extremely 'space magic' for my taste... all of a sudden, all life is fused with synthetic life... doesn't even make sense.

Also, the ending sucked because it felt like the players choice didn't matter.

Is Andromeda going to be like DA:O, where we can choose our race/class or is it going to be like ME/the later Dragon Age games? If they bring in melee combat I hope they make it more like DA

Ah, I hadn't heard Andromeda was entirely disconnected, some older info mentioned it would be based on the Synthesis ending.

I don't really understand the rage about the endings though, there were some odd design decisions but I don't need a happy ending everywhere everytime.

Well, at least that seems to be a reasonable explanation to why Andromeda is disconnected from the others in this series, because i see no way that they could salvage anything after that terrible ending.

I just hope they find some new, cool villain, instead of recicling the reapers.

Characters, whatever... but the arks were send out before the reaper invasion, and there's four of them, one for each council race - that means no krogan (and if yes they still suffer from the genophage), no quarians, certainly no geth, and none of the minor races (volus, elcor...).

All the major Mass Effect races should be there: each race sent an Ark out to the other galaxy, and the human Ark gets thrown off course for some plot-relevant reason.

Maybe the Protheans did the same thing, or maybe a few rogue Reapers followed them. Who knows? Hope its fun enough to care.

Well, We know that the ending to ME3 probably won't come into play at all. According according to the plot/gameplay details released on N7 day, the arks carrying humanity and three other species (apparently Asari Salarians and Turians) all left before the Reaper Invasion started.

@Oliver König: Yeah, but they did not move it to the side. The crew of Andromeda don't know what happened in the main universe and can't interact with it.

I wonder, will they add more colours to the explosion now? XD
I bought ME 1 and 2, still have them on Steam (because screw Origin), but after hearing the rage of the ending of ME3, I didn't even bothered anymore. I don't want to invest so much time on a franchise to be dissapointed like this.

to another "world" is a sensible approach to still retain some recognizable facets from the previous games while gaining enough freedom to write a new story with different characters, adding new themes or approaching known themes differently. I'm looking forward to it, personally.

Shepards' story was essentially finished, and it's quite hard to still write a fresh and captivating story about somebody with that level of power and reputation even if they wanted to do it. So relegating Shepard to the backstory, moving ahead a few centuries to rebuild and moving the story.. Cont^

I don't think it's fair to point out Deus Ex and Call of Duty and say these are the only two ways it can be done, there are many approaches to sequenciality. This comic has plotlines here and there yet still singular gags, for example. Cont.^

@Big_Gamer: Shooters have far less need of being attached to lore and characters than RPG.

Imagine of the new Call of Duty had no iron sights and was just run and gun, would be a more appropriate example.

If you mean, that you don't play a single character throughout the entire thing, then sure, but Andromeda basically has nothing to do with ME, other than being set in the same universe. That's entirely different than Deus Ex, where everything is strongly interrelated.

DE:MD directly brings familiar characters who feature prominently in the first game up.

If you think Deus EX has nothing to do with itself, then you've never played Deus Ex, or paid any attention to it's storyline.

@Obaid, you have it right man.
@Big_Gamer
I'm sorry I must disagree, Deus Ex has nothing to do with it's games? You're fucking joking right? The events of DE are directly related to DE:IW, and DE:HR is a prequel to all of it with it's end lampshading the events of the first game. (cont)

Well, Call of duty doesent have anything to do with each other. Neither does Medal of honour, Fable, Deus Ex and many other series. It's more about having the same feel and gameplay rather than same characters. So I think judgment should be reserved until we play it.

People tend to forget that initially Andromeda was not supposed to have "Mass Effect" in its name as ME was supposed to just be the story of Shepard.

It is basically going to be a game in the same universe, but other than a few races here and there there is supposed to be no connection.

ME1 was the best, ME2 was too shallow, ME3 was a bit deeper than 2, but had it issues.

I actually have never played the ME series, never got around to it.
PS yay I'm pretty early!

Despite being a massive ME fanboy, I still haven't played ME3. Because **** installing Origin.