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Narcissus
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almost 10 years ago
I don't believe in the Trench. Maybe I just got lucky, but I got 3.2k mmr when I did my placement matches. Most people I meet that are in the very low bracket deserve to be there, because they just aren't as good.
almost 10 years ago
[url=#user_comment_351859]@EnragedFilia[/url]: Yes, because the jokes would have to be explained better and 99% of the readers would have the same starting point.
almost 10 years ago
[url=#user_comment_351857]@anothga[/url]: no, it's just a lowest bracket. Is like wooden league in sc2 (something even lower than bronze).
almost 10 years ago
[url=#user_comment_351853]@Technature[/url]: As an English speaker I actually wouldn't know about most of the community. It technically isn't available outside of Japan so we foreigners have to set our OS to use JST and then use a VPN to log in. But the English-language forums are pretty nice, at least.
T
almost 10 years ago
[url=#user_comment_351842]@EnragedFilia[/url] that sounds like a great idea! I have never played Kantai Collection but slice of life with cute girls is never too much.
almost 10 years ago
@Better Nerf Irelia: "So... "TRENCH" is Dota's equivalent to LoL's "ELO HELL"?"
Basically, yes. Those two terms are just different terms for the same thing.
almost 10 years ago
[url=#user_comment_351853]@Technature[/url]: Just out of curiosity, did you try co-op matches before you tried playing against other people? I found it was a more forgiving atmosphere that allowed me to practice and learn without being yelled at. I'm not trying to convince you to play again, just wondering.
almost 10 years ago
[url=#user_comment_351853]@Technature[/url]: I don't blame you for not wanting to play the game again at this point, but I'm thinking maybe it would have been more enjoyable for you if you started with bot-only matches, then moved on to co-op matches with bots as the other team. I found people were generally nicer in co-op mode.
almost 10 years ago
[url=#user_comment_351853]@Technature[/url]: I don't blame you for not wanting to give it another try at this point, but I found that starting with co-op matches against bots was best, because people seemed to be nicer and more forgiving in those. Or you can just play an all-bot match with bots as teammates AND enemies.
almost 10 years ago
[url=#user_comment_351842]@EnragedFilia[/url]: Honestly? I think I would prefer that. That game community probably isn't filled with pricks.
almost 10 years ago
@Better Nerf Irelia: IDK, I'm more optimistic than that because I have actually made good progress so far, even if it has been slow.
almost 10 years ago
[url=#user_comment_351827]@Technature[/url]: Yeah, you can run into some pretty nasty people. Or maybe the game brings out the worst in people who are normally not nasty, IDK. I found it was best to start playing against bots in co-op matches, where I could set the difficulty level. People are generally more forgiving and nicer.
almost 10 years ago
[url=#user_comment_351827]@Technature[/url]: There are unfortunately plenty of assholes, and sometimes the game brings out the worst in otherwise decent people. You could, perhaps, try playing co-op games against the AI bots. People tend to be more forgiving in those, and you can set the difficulty level of your enemies.
almost 10 years ago
[url=#user_comment_351847]@Raxyz[/url]: The thing is that if I actually did suck as bad as the game thought I did after my calibrating matches, I would never have been able to win enough games to raise my MMR by almost 1000 points so far. But I did. And the more I play, the more I learn and the more practice I get.
almost 10 years ago
@Bart Stabwound: You are my favorite person to grace this comment section.
almost 10 years ago
Oh, almost forgot.
Guide to exit the Trench
Step 1 - Stop sucking so bad
Step 2 - Stop overestimating yourself
Step 3 - Less QQ more pew pew

100% efficiency.
Kinesis
almost 10 years ago
Although actual reviewers say Mordor is ok, do be wary that there is a really nasty "say nice things about xbox -machinma" types of paid deals all over youtube about the game. Of course the contract tells them how they can not talk about the game and how many times they must proclaim its greatness.
Dawnk41
almost 10 years ago
Jo, so I've been reading Nerfnow for a while now (Mostly BECAUSE of the Dota 2 comics, I actually found it by looking up "Dota 2 Webcomics"), and I just wanted to say, you're awesome! I really love all your Dota 2 comics, and most of the others too!
At some point, we should play Dota 2.
almost 10 years ago
Don't waste your time trying to get out of the trench. If you're there you're there for life. Spend your time dragging everyone else down with you instead, it's much more fun. Besides, literally every single person that plays Dota 2 deserves to be trolled to death. It's a victimless crime.
almost 10 years ago
Oh joy, there's censorship on the comments section here. Since when? Fuck this.
almost 10 years ago
Just look at it this way everyone. I've been playing Kantai Collection for a few months. Would you rather Jo did a bunch of jokes about Kantai Collection game mechanics that nobody else gets?
almost 10 years ago
Is this the start of a "Trench" Saga?
almost 10 years ago
"AAA tastes like fast food." I wouldn't say all of them are like that, but yeah, you got a point.
SoM is basically Black Flag + Batman, so if you're looking something new, avoid it.
ben
almost 10 years ago
I definitely agree on that "AAA games feel like fast food" sentiment. They're rarely surprising.
almost 10 years ago
[url=#user_comment_351795]@Ribusprissin[/url]: There wasn't a woman to harass for sleeping with someone for a good review of a game the reviewer never actually reviewed, so they didn't bother with it.
almost 10 years ago
Jo seems to like strategy games, (Dota 2, Sanctum, FRL) I'm really surprised he hasn't tried Wakfu out, especially since it has CYOOT GURLS, Bastion-esque art and turn based strategy. ALSO HON HON BAGUETTE Plus the anime is good.
almost 10 years ago
I Think You should try Shadow of Mordor... I liked it.
almost 10 years ago
Five man party MMR is really the only accurate mmr, since you can choose the variables that is your team. With solo, you never know what you're going to get. Really though, MMR is a teambased game kinda is counter intuitive, it's not a kill based game.
almost 10 years ago
(cont) But you never get the chance to get THAT MUCH BETTER, because you keep practicing with horrible teams. Unless you can magically learn how to carry everyone, you will get stuck on your skill level. And since you don't improve, you will never scape "Elo Hell/Trench".

It's a vicious circle.
almost 10 years ago
@Kilgore Trout: So... "TRENCH" is Dota's equivalent to LoL's "ELO HELL"?

Makes sense, that's an issue of every game that relies on probabilistic match making and team-work to win. Lower ranks are harder to climb, you have to be A LOT BETTER than your ELO to carry the random team you get. (cont)
almost 10 years ago
The only good MOBA I've played was the adventure time one. I'm sure it has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that you can't type in whatever you want at all.
almost 10 years ago
[url=#user_comment_351816]@Shadowfury[/url]: I'm personally fine with the game not being for any specific game, but Holy shit, Why DOTA? The game (and MOBAs in general) is filled to the brim with assholes. I played a match and THE ENEMY TEAM mocked me for doing badly on my first game.
almost 10 years ago
Can we please not have half the months comics be DOTA anymore? Even when I get the jokes, roughly 5% of the time, they're not funny anyways
RVN
almost 10 years ago
well, there are people in "very high skill" matches that don't know how to play drow ranger
drow ranger
in very high skill
man
almost 10 years ago
(cont) What I find confusing is that when the game analyzed my 10 matches, my team won more than 50% of them, and I'm pretty sure I got more kills and assists than deaths in those games. And yet it still put me in a very low MMR.
almost 10 years ago
(cont) In order to climb out of the trench and into higher brackets, you need to win a lot. But you will need to rely on these bad players to help you win, and the legend is that the bad players will always screw up and make you lose, so you can never escape the trench. (cont)
almost 10 years ago
[url=#user_comment_351820]@TerLoki[/url]: http://dota2.gamepedia.com/MMR The game figures out your MMR by analyzing ten matches you play. The "trench" is where you are if the game thinks you play badly and puts you in the very lowest skill bracket with the worst players. (cont)
almost 10 years ago
So uh, I get the general idea of the comic, but the joke loses a lot of impact because I have no idea what "trench" is in this context. That happens to me with a lot of DOTA jokes. I miss Engy. :(
Verteros
almost 10 years ago
I was skeptical about Shadow of Mordor too but for once I took a release day dive after they briefly lowered the price in Australia. It's fantastic, exactly what I hoped it would be.
almost 10 years ago
this isnt even an inside joke, its something that you could easily just relate with other games.

well good riddance anyway, the fewer the kids in here the better.
almost 10 years ago
[url=#user_comment_351815]@Amplify[/url]: This isn't a webcomic for TF2 fanboys. It's a webcomic for gamers. Oh, and mobas are great.
Amplify
almost 10 years ago
...Yep, I think I'm done. Been reading Nerf NOW!! since the original TF2 arc of 20 or so comics but it hasn't been good in a while and I find myself checking for new comics maybe once every month.

Mobas are terrible, comics based around them are worse.
almost 10 years ago
(cont)But then I lost the next match and fell below 2000 again. Then another. Then I won some. Then I lost more. Now I'm at 1851 MMR again, and it's maddening. Maybe I shouldn't even bother with ranked since it causes me so much stress, but I still keep going, hoping to one day reach at least 3k.
almost 10 years ago
You can claw your way out of the trench, but you really have to work at it. After I finished my 10 matches, it said my MMR was in the 1100s, and I was like "Oh come on!" So I played lots of ranked games in the months since and, finally, my MMR was raised above 2000. (cont)
almost 10 years ago
Another le dota joek

So funneh
almost 10 years ago
Only get Shadow Of Mordor if you are willing to lose an enormous amount of time to the game. The combat is a cross between Arkham City and Assassin's Creed. The story is pretty good, but it makes sure to stay the F out of the way of the Nemesis System, which is addictive to manipulate. I love it.
Von
almost 10 years ago
[url=#user_comment_351804]@WOLEad[/url] this actually sounds pretty fun. Dunno about Jo, but you've almost convinced me to get it.
WOLEad
almost 10 years ago
Give Shadow of Mordor a try on PC. Combat is similar to Assassin's Creed/Arkham. Voice Acting is GLORIOUS.

Best reason? Think Orc Tamagotchi. Find an Orc, raise him through the ranks and watch him grow in power. Give him scars and burns for character. Then murder him for loot.
almost 10 years ago
I approve of this idea of female Invoker.
almost 10 years ago
fastfood tastes like shit
aaa games tastes like cellophane
Von
almost 10 years ago
Err... female Invoker? O_o
almost 10 years ago
There was a weird thing where the PR company WB hired (to promote SoM) only gave prerelease games to youtubers and livestreamers who would say specific things about the game. Where are the gamergate crusaders when we need them, right?
almost 10 years ago
First!