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What people are saying about "Manners"
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about 1 month ago
Holy crap a joke that ISN'T dota or overwatch!
about 1 month ago
@Richard
Its an insult in japan as well
2 months ago
Ooh ouch!
2 months ago
It's a Japanese thing. Over there it's an innocent gesture that means "Look how strong I am". I'm not sure if it first appeared before or after the American icon "Rosie The Riveter" but either way, it's similar to that.
2 months ago
It's a fairly rude gesture in widespread culture, so I don't think blaming its removal on people "getting offended over everything" is right. Devs have creative liberty; if they want to remove or change something, they can do that, someone who "lost their shit" didn't do much of anything here.
2 months ago
Everything is offensive to someone. I'll bet the fact that squidgirl is showing so much skin is offensive somewhere.
I'm not saying Nintendo was wrong to remove it, simply saying that "don't put in anything offensive" is impossible.
2 months ago
President Skroob! Salute! Hail Skroob!
http://imgur.com/gallery/mnZZ4Bd
And yes, it's still an insulting gesture, but played for laughs.
2 months ago
That's not innocent in North America, not in the States anyway. That's an "up yours" if I ever saw one.
2 months ago
I'm fairly sure that the taunt was just a case of Nintendo forgetting about their European and South American audiences. It has a completely different, much more innocent meaning in Japan and North America, and it's especially common in Japan.
2 months ago
The dog didn't shit the carpet this time, it just wiped it's ass along a bit of it.
That's how I read that last sentence.
2 months ago
It's clearly just the inkgirl showing her guns, but it does look like a rude gesture we have in EUrope. The "Bras D'Honneur", arm of honor, as we call it in France, is considered a really, REALLY rude gesture. While I don't think it was what Nintendo was going for, I can understand removing it.
2 months ago
Point is, there's no need for such things especially in games for kids. The whole "deal with it" argument is understandable, but that doesn't mean it's ok to put offensive stuff everywhere.
2 months ago
Here you guys go https://twitter.com/ffdek/status/859400280345120769
2 months ago
In a few countries it is not only rude ("cheeky", or some places somewhat more scatological) but also a threat of violence. I would expect its the violence link that got it removed. (It means "I am going to beat you (and your friends/family) up when you aren't expecting it")
2 months ago
Credit where credit is due Jo, major props for making that spanking as unfanservicey as possible... funny how fine the line is with any situation
2 months ago
Y'know, with how often this gesture comes up in Nintendo games (From SMRPG to Pokemon) and is subsequently replaced, you'd think they would have learned by now to just not use it at all. I don't find it offensive, but it's still a waste of resources to animate a character twice.
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2 months ago
The thumbs up also was offensive in some parts of the world but with international media and Internet I guess this is disappearing.
2 months ago
I find the way people get offended about everything and are always looking for excuses to get offended... quite offensive.
2 months ago
@Nerf NOW!!: hey there impersonator
2 months ago
I don't think it is an issue about "everyone is offended by everything", but just a consequence of people of different cultures have different standards and companies are reaching out and making stuff for numerous cultures. After all, there's an ocean's difference between a slur and a cigarette.
2 months ago
Mario spanking a Squid Girl. Mmmmmmm... the fetish fanservice in this one.
2 months ago
Hilariously, this is not the first time Nintendo has had to do this. Bowser in the Japanese version of Mario RPG for the SNES uses the bicep-pat as his end-battle celebration, but it looks very much like the "up yours" gesture. They changed it for the Western release to be a two-armed flex.
2 months ago
The issue is that, in Japanese media, patting your bicep is a (somewhat) common, cheeky taunt - basically saying "look how strong I am". We have the same gesture here in the west, but it's nowhere near as common and you have to hold your arm out sideways unless you want it to be mistaken...
2 months ago
@Vivien Voillot: People compare it a lot, but I think Rose is moving the shirt sleeve out of the way to show her bicepts,, while the "up yours" motion is more like a slap on the biceps while doing a upward movement.

In motion, they are different.
2 months ago
In this case, why the prudish actual people don't modify the "Rosy the Riveter" posters?
She is doing the exact same move, no ? :)
#sarcasm
2 months ago
To follow up Zane, exactly this. Literally, "Fuck you." The hand on the arm is usually expressed as a firm slap down as the fist is raised, a symbol of pretty much ramming your or 'a' fist "Up Theirs".

I'm sure some QA team head somewhere is getting chewed out over this.
2 months ago
This comment is for people who didn't get the controversy, like myself: Apparently in some cultures (I'm in the US, for reference) that gesture is called the "Bras d'honneur" and is the equivalent to a raised middle finger. I wouldn't have known.