What people are saying about "They Care"
They Care
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senselocke
almost 11 years ago
@Mr SP: Just to clarify, M$ saw ALL its 360 sales from me (150+ discs, 40+ XBLA, various add-ons) because the 360 had OXB BC. Sometimes, BC sales aren't direct, and most BC-lovers are early adopters, collectors, and the people in their peer groups who will preach/condemn a new console.
Zacsi
almost 11 years ago
[url=#user_comment_296860]@Chief[/url]: In short term yes. In the long run however everybody is getting fucked. Except the shareholders. They can bail anytime the going goes rough. Which is where the true problem lies, as in people who have no idea about gaming (nor do they care) are making the important decisions.
Mr SP
almost 11 years ago
@Persona.: He's right. Backwards compatibility is often pretty expensive - mechanical is better than software emulation - and it's not as if Sony will see sales from it's old games if it offers it. However, Gaikai may be an affordable alternative for Sony, if they managed to get it up.
Fratriarch
almost 11 years ago
[url=#user_comment_296702]@Alex[/url]: I believe Steam has recently implemented just that: You can only find half of hte cards for your first set, and you need to either trade for or buy (in the community market) the rest of the cards. It's not a console, you don't HAVE to play games, and you pay for your achievements.
almost 11 years ago
[url=#user_comment_296905]@Bropocalypse[/url] Tell me about it: http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=SNE
Bropocalypse
almost 11 years ago
Xbone is the best advertising Sony could have asked for
Persona.
almost 11 years ago
[url=#user_comment_296860]@Chief[/url]: baseless statements. Pull up a proof out of your ass next time. Or better, from Google.
almost 11 years ago
@No.: Actually they lose money on adding backwards compatibility. End of story.
almost 11 years ago
So, eventually I'll need to upgrade my gaming rig. Boy, I hope the new rig is backwards compatible!
MartyMcFly
almost 11 years ago
[url=#user_comment_296757]@AckAckAck[/url] - "superior gold race" and "Hooligan thugs" don't cancel each other out - it combines perfectly to belittle the peasants of console gaming. :P
Sir Scarfalot
almost 11 years ago
My god, they actually DID it?! I knew there was the potential for total thievery from Xbox live, but I didn't really think they'd go through with it! Thank GOD I stayed with the Wii and Steam, at least I don't have to buy what I already freakin bought!

Screw irresponsible DRM-happy companies.
No.
almost 11 years ago
[url=#user_comment_296823]@Alpharius[/url]: "Moving forward" shouldn't mean dropping support for *arguably better* games. It's lazy design, end of story.
Deject
almost 11 years ago
Nintendo may not have a lot of faith in their products, but after winning the last war, and improving their third party support, more so than before, it looks like the "war" will be between them and Sony.

Bayonetta 2. Hahahahahaha. Oh, I can't wait for that to come out. The fun to be had.
Deject
almost 11 years ago
I do miss the support for my Game Cube games, but I do have my old Wii and Game Cube for that. They are small consoles, so easy enough to store.

The XBox One's design makes me think of 90's sci-fi designs. Something I'd see on plastic toys. Kinda cute.
Deject
almost 11 years ago
[url=#user_comment_296757]@AckAckAck[/url]: When Steam first came out, I stayed away treating it as a horrible program. I've come around after years of good faith building (sales and solid reputation does that). I wouldn't have bought my first or second PS2 without backwards compatibility. I'm happy the Wii U does for the Wii.
Yarr
almost 11 years ago
[url=#user_comment_296757]@AckAckAck[/url]: Actually I spend my money only on indie and a few other games (like witcher, metro and other 200% awesome stuff) because AAA and many other games are not only more expensive, they are also bland and only serve as cashcows for megacorporations.
Alpharius
almost 11 years ago
The reason 360 games won't be compatible is because the XBO needs to move forward for bigger and better games. If they had to include all the software that 360 games need, it would be bloated, both physically and internally.
BakaGrappler
almost 11 years ago
Yeeeeaaaah. Fuck the new X-Box. And possibly the new PS4. I've got my gaming PC, so I'll be fine for the next generation. They have no games that I absolutely need to play.
AckAckAck
almost 11 years ago
[url=#user_comment_296708]@mrtt[/url]: Achievements are just empty e-peen. A simple kill switch will erase them.
MelGibson
almost 11 years ago
Even if Win 7 isn't straight compatible backwards, you can download a free software to make it compatible(read: emulators or dosbox).
Consoles are becoming more PC which is not good thing, for consoles. The uniqueness is only reason to play with console instead of PC.
Jaybonaut
almost 11 years ago
PS4 will also not be backwards compatible.
AckAckAck
almost 11 years ago
People like that deserve to be placed inside a dark mansion chased by mentally shattering monsters.
AckAckAck
almost 11 years ago
Tho worst part is people actually pirate games from small time developers who depend their income from game sales. That's why companies like Friction games almost went bankrupt twice making Amnesia and an asshole decided to pirate their review copy on Day 1 launch. Nice going asshole. cont...
AckAckAck
almost 11 years ago
people pay whatever they want people tend to grab it for free and it's even pirated! so much for PC gamers being "superior gold race" and more like "Hooligan thugs."

cont...
AckAckAck
almost 11 years ago
Origin is a DRM

Steam is a DRM (and people treat it like Origin when they appeared for the first time)

Gamersgate is a DRM

Stupid DRMs like limited installs.

Maxis' SimCity always online requirements.

The sad part is when someone had a goodwill to sell their game by letting cont...
AckAckAck
almost 11 years ago
Everyone here who crusading for PC by belittling consoles forget that PC gaming has a ton of problems too. Let me see....

Ubisoft and it's problematic DRM U-Play. U-Play installed backdoor to our PC without our consent. When people found out about it Ubi try to play dumb.

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lokrthar
almost 11 years ago
[url=#user_comment_296708]@mrtt[/url]: how about porn ads
mrtt
almost 11 years ago
Achievements represent a time investment of the player, a sunk cost that they are emotionally going to want to keep. Losing that will make them quit.
Everything else is a money investment of the player, something microsoft wants them to waste more of (by entrapping them with achievements)
Alex
almost 11 years ago
And I liked old Engie more
Alex
almost 11 years ago
I have awesome business idea. Console-less console. People just pay for achievements.
usbfridge
almost 11 years ago
Anyone else notice the slight changes in the character designs? I like them, personally. I just think Engie's beginning to look a bit too...masculine. She needs to be more feminine.
The Eski
almost 11 years ago
The more I hear about the Xbox one, the more terrible it sounds. I'm not touching this thing with a ten foot pole.
Cuntt
almost 11 years ago
[url=#user_comment_296588]@Dusk[/url]: Windows 7 has XP-mode.
Alem
almost 11 years ago
[url=#user_comment_296622]@Failstorm[/url]: And then they chose linux :D
Ryute
almost 11 years ago
[url=#user_comment_296616]@Zero[/url]: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=65196 you are welcome
Anon
almost 11 years ago
So.....you'll have bunch of achievements on games not playable on the console.

I loled.
Failstorm
almost 11 years ago
Step 1. Infiltrate the console gaming market
Step 2. Take over a majority of the player base
Step 3. Crush console gamers trust in console platforms by pulling this shit
Step 4. All console gamers abandon console gaming for PC gaming
Step 5. ???????????
Step 6. Profit
Zero
almost 11 years ago
[url=#user_comment_296583]@PCGAMERNUMBER2974244425[/url]: As much as I defend PCs, even I have to confess I haven't been able to run Starcraft since I got Win7.
Aze
almost 11 years ago
Keeping achievements is nice but come on, not being able to play Xbox Live games? I mean, that's just stupid because it will stop people from upgrading to the new console.
beatiful
almost 11 years ago
finaly no more ugly engie
Tk
almost 11 years ago
Getting better with this new style for her face. You must be practicing it a lot?
almost 11 years ago
New style is looking good, Jo!
tom641
almost 11 years ago
[url=#user_comment_296584]@Comment[/url]: Pretty much sums up what Microsoft knows about their audience.
Ninj77
almost 11 years ago
[url=#user_comment_296586]@Dagoth[/url]: You're right, pal. I've never got any problem while using for a loooong time windows xp, but now with 7, new games run like silk, but everytime I tried to install my old games (like Kotor 1 & 2), well it's a bit of an "Odyssey" to try and making them work properly.
Dusk
almost 11 years ago
[url=#user_comment_296583]@PCGAMERNUMBER2974244425[/url]: Games made for Windows XP are pretty notorious for not running all that well on Vista and 7. Not to an unplayable degree most of the time, there's generally ways to get it working, but it's not as smooth as Install > Play
2033
almost 11 years ago
at least now I know why I don't play Games for Windows Life games anymore.
Dagoth
almost 11 years ago
Same here, i have no problems launching a 15 year old game on mine W7 64bit without using an emulator but i do have to say some games have the problem of not launchin on "some" settings but then again this also happens with some of the "new" tittles, i think Kotor had problems like that.
Mr SP
almost 11 years ago
[url=#user_comment_296577]@HarshTruth[/url]: I have no idea what you're referring to. [url=#user_comment_296583] @PCGAMERNUMBER2974244425[/url]: I hear it's an "uphill battle" getting Windows 7 to play certain old games. Specifically, in reference to Quake III - there was a workaround, but it was odd, and the default installer wouldn't work.
Comment
almost 11 years ago
Penis.
PCGAMERNUMBER2974244425
almost 11 years ago
@Mr SP: I can run pretty much anything on my Windows 7.

So yeah, shut up.
HarshTruth
almost 11 years ago
@Mr SP: Your birth was a crime
Mr SP
almost 11 years ago
@Prof. Luigi
Like I said, I can't keep them. I'll trade in for a new console, once they stop putting out good games on the PS3, and I stop playing it. And, like I said, that's not going to be for a year after the release, at the earliest. (Though I'm a PS gamer, not an Xbox gamer.)
Mr SP
almost 11 years ago
[url=#user_comment_296471]@JunWasHere[/url] You think PCs are backwards compatible? While it's less severe, with every generation of OS, and every new piece of technology in your hardware, more and more games become less and less natively compatible. It's only emulators that probably work... and they're a crime.
Prof. Luigi
almost 11 years ago
@Mr SP: Since you don't have space to keep all of your games around, how will you have space to get the new Xbox One to play all your Xbox One games and your old Xbox/Xbox 360 to play their games?
Mr SP
almost 11 years ago
I don't have the space - hard drive or shelf space - to keep most games around. No backwards compatibility is just one more reason to wait a year until buying a new console, which is their problem, not mine.
Mr SP
almost 11 years ago
I have to admit... keeping my Trophies is sort of important. I'd really like if there was at least some form of backwards compatibility... But, seriously, I haven't got anything left of many of my games other than my Trophies.
ninj4
almost 11 years ago
So what? Not like you can play Dota 2 on the Xbox One anyways..
GratuitousLurking
almost 11 years ago
...Tentacle fingerguns?
almost 11 years ago
You can even use your old SDTV because the XboxOne only has an HDMI cable for Tv Connection.

And lo, they lost me!
mags
almost 11 years ago
No matter if you are an uber-fans of Microsoft, the next xbone is a big no.
Guybrush20X6
almost 11 years ago
For everyonw siging the praises of the PC remember that MS and especially Apple would like it to be as restrictive as consoles when it comes to games. i.e only through their store and they get a cut. So remain vigilant.
Raxyz
almost 11 years ago
AAAnnnndddd. Next gen belongs to PS3 and PC probably...
Obby
almost 11 years ago
Eehhhh, XMPP was a meh protocol anyways. IRC's still king for a reason.
Sakuya loves pads
almost 11 years ago
nvm, they've already removed xmpp... bitches...
Sakuya loves pads
almost 11 years ago
Achievements are free, gamepads not...profit!
@nr 17:
Google replaced google talk with hangouts, their own protocol and they will remove XMPP from gmail - an attempt to push their own(not standardized/used by the rest of the world)protocol to gain monopoly and become gayass company like apple/EA
Ninj77
almost 11 years ago
[url=#user_comment_296475]@Zero[/url]: You said it, pal! I couldn't agree more with you.
Duvi0
almost 11 years ago
[url=#user_comment_296475]@Zero[/url]: At least Sony is fucking trying... but barely... Hey, at least the WiiU is good.
Zero
almost 11 years ago
I, and pretty much every other PC gamer out there, have been anticipating the spectacular market crash that this console generation will probably trigger. Consoles are so far behind PCs is pathetic. Only Nintendo knows what they're doing.
Nicko
almost 11 years ago
Basically microsoft is targeting the "bro" audience... Yeah, nice joke.
JunWasHere
almost 11 years ago
lol. Everyone should just switch to PC.

Last I checked, new consoles can't use games from an older console, right? Or did gamers come to feel entitled to more?

To me, it seems like the XBox1 is focused more on improving gaming as a socially-accepted part of life, not just the gaming itself.
nice trawl
almost 11 years ago
Your tears are delicious, console peasants.
Midou
almost 11 years ago
That's messed up.
almost 11 years ago
[url=#user_comment_296431]@Guybrush20X6[/url]: The back and top aren't straight anymore. It's less "boxy".
almost 11 years ago
It would have been hilarious if they hadn't kept achievements, after spending the last generation turning gamers into achievement hunters.
Insertnamehere
almost 11 years ago
Ah Yes, my precious achievements shall forever be there, you shall all know I got the happy ending of Lollypop Chainsaw and looked up her skirt, and that I played the Orange box and found out the cake may not be a lie...
Guybrush20X6
almost 11 years ago
Can't quite but my finger on what's different but nice job on Engie-Tan's hair.
nr 17
almost 11 years ago
Death to Ea and Microsoft. Long live GOOGLE.
almost 11 years ago
I guess there's one good thing that came with XbONE: Loads and loads of joke material.
Godot
almost 11 years ago
And then there was only Sony and Nintendo...
Tue
almost 11 years ago
Don´t worry blackeye - I seemed to see it. Later I could report that it was something I saw :)
einstein95
almost 11 years ago
Wooo! Microsfot!
blackeye
almost 11 years ago
noone seem to saw the microsFOt... hmmm
Gimme back my TU!
almost 11 years ago
And that, my dear friends, is why we need to find a cure for cancer.
MrPriest
almost 11 years ago
@Nekmata - Very perceptive!
Nekomata
almost 11 years ago
And the O's in NERFNOW.COM are colored in.
Nekomata
almost 11 years ago
Typo in the dialogue for Engie in the second panel.